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Old 02-03-2010, 06:15 AM   #1
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Ray LaHood: U.S. had to force Toyota into safety recall

http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/02/02...safety-recall/

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United States Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said today that the recent Toyota recalls come by way of an ‘enormous effort,’ and that federal regulators are not done with their investigations.
“Since questions were first raised about possible safety defects, we have been pushing Toyota to take measures to protect consumers,” LaHood said in a statement. “While Toyota is taking responsible action now, it unfortunately took an enormous effort to get to this point.”
LaHood mentioned that had it not been for the governments urging, Toyota would not have issued the recall. Toyota is set to testify before Congress on two separate dates; Feb. 10 and Feb. 25.

Toyota has apparently had knowledge of the faulty accelerator pedal assemblies as early as March of 2007, and under went two redesigns before the recall. Toyota’s recall in November concerning floor mats trapping accelerator pedals against the floor also came only by way of the government urging them to do so. Safety advocates claim that the recent Toyota defects are linked to a minimum of 19 deaths.
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Why do you assume that the government is telling the truth? Hell, this administration lies about the lies that it lies about! Also with Obama now owning GM (read government motors) what a great thing to bash and trash the competition. Also this would not be the first time that the government has mandated recalls that were not entirely true. ie GM truck gas tanks, firestone tires on explorers, suzuki samy rollovers.
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Most administrations lie. But yeah, Lets bash the foreign car company, so people might buy foreign share holder owned so called American cars.
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Watching the news last night they were talking about Tokoyo just ordered Toyota to investigate reports of brake loss on the Prius.

WTF is going on with Toyota?
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IMO I think Toyota didn't have plans on doing the recall, I think they did it as a preemptive move, since NHTSA was about to do it for them, and it looks much better for them to say we chose to make the recall rather than say we were forced.
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Shit it is getting worse

Was watching CNBC and they reported this.

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has advised Toyota drivers to stop using their recalled cars. "We need to fix the problem and not have people have to put it in neutral. If you own one, I say stop driving. Return it now,"
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In the end I think Toyota will be fine. I remember hearing they had a ridiculous amount of money saved up for recalls. I think Toyota will handle the situation quickly and flawlessly and then things will be back to normal in the near future. It will be exciting to see some of their future commercials.
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this isnt effecting the Tacoma right? I'm going to go look it up...
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Watching the news last night they were talking about Tokoyo just ordered Toyota to investigate reports of brake loss on the Prius.

WTF is going on with Toyota?
IMO the Prius issue is being blown out of proportion, only 14 complaints in Japan and about 150 in the US, there are over 1 million Prius on the road, so the complains are what?.. Not even 0.05% of Prius owners have complained?

This is one of the reasons I hate news, they tend to sell as much as possible a topic when the topic is hot. In the next few weeks any small thing that comes up with Toyota you will be sure that its going to be in the headlines.

I do as other have said somewhat glad that this has happened to Toyota not because I want to see them like this, but because this might just get them to get their head straight again, they ignored the pedal issue to a point the got themselves cornered and they could have avoided all this if they had taken some action before.
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Why do you assume that the government is telling the truth? Hell, this administration lies about the lies that it lies about! Also with Obama now owning GM (read government motors) what a great thing to bash and trash the competition. Also this would not be the first time that the government has mandated recalls that were not entirely true. ie GM truck gas tanks, firestone tires on explorers, suzuki samy rollovers.
Conspiracy theorists..

If that was a lie, then it's a blatant lie.. with no grey area. I don't think Toyota would have let it slide.

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IMO the Prius issue is being blown out of proportion, only 14 complaints in Japan and about 150 in the US, there are over 1 million Prius on the road, so the complains are what?.. Not even 0.05% of Prius owners have complained?
I don't get your logic. How many percentage does it have to represent before you think it's NOT overblown? Take air safety for instance. How many percentage of air passengers get killed each year? does it still make each air incident less news worthy?
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I don't get your logic. How many percentage does it have to represent before you think it's NOT overblown? Take air safety for instance. How many percentage of air passengers get killed each year? does it still make each air incident less news worthy?
A lot more than that. If with less that 200 complaints you would make a recall of a certain vehicle, then every car on the planet would be on recall. EVERY model receives complaints. The complaints on the Prius are just that complaints, there has not been any evidence of a problem.
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A lot more than that. If with less that 200 complaints you would make a recall of a certain vehicle, then every car on the planet would be on recall. EVERY model receives complaints. The complaints on the Prius are just that complaints, there has not been any evidence of a problem.
Okay so you're basically saying it's some arbitrary value that suites you..

Complaints of seat covers ripping is totally different than complaints of performance issues directly related to safety.
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Ok then think of this, every company has received complaints on sudden acceleration. How many of them have been recalled?
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Okay so you're basically saying it's some arbitrary value that suites you..

Complaints of seat covers ripping is totally different than complaints of performance issues directly related to safety.
Yes I know, so we have 200 complaints of 1,000,000 vehicles thats .0002% are you telling me that .0002% is enough to say that there is a problem with ALL of them? That's like me going to New York, get robbed, come back home and say I will never go to New York again because they are ALL thiefs. .0002% its not enough because the MOST probable cause is an isolated problem. And when I say every car company received complaints I'm not just saying complaints about dumb stuff for example as I mentioned in the above post, every car company receives complaints on sudden acceleration and you don't see every company making a recall about it.

and what I meant about it being in the news is exactly that, the fact that other vehicles on the market have received more safety complaints than that, and you don't see CNN going all over them. They did it with the Prius since Toyota is the hot topic of the moment.
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December 2009 NHTSA report, How many of these RECENT complaints have you seen on the news?
http://nhthqnwws112.odi.nhtsa.dot.go...22009-1234.pdf
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oh geeze. thomas buses - (aka the yellow buses children ride to/from school) throttle gets stuck on floor plate.

where is the national news freakout on this little ditty?
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oh geeze. thomas buses - (aka the yellow buses children ride to/from school) throttle gets stuck on floor plate.

where is the national news freakout on this little ditty?

Exactly!

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THIS INVESTIGATION WAS OPENED AFTER A FLEET SUPERVISOR SUBMITTED A VOQ ON A MODEL YEAR 2008 THOMAS BUILT "EF" SCHOOL BUS AND REPORTED THAT "THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WILL STICK AND WON'T RELEASE." THIS PROBLEM OCCURRED ON ONE OF THE FLEET BUSES AND THE DRIVER HAD TO FREE THE PEDAL BY HAND. ODI CONDUCTED A FIELD VISIT AND CONFIRMED BY INSPECTION THAT PUSHING AT THE PEDAL'S BASE (POSITION NEAREST THE DRIVER) WOULD SOMETIMES ALLOW IT TO STICK AT THE METAL SCUFF PLATE (ON THE FLOOR) WITHOUT RELEASING. A SECOND FLEET WAS CONTACTED AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM. ODI CONVEYED ITS FIELD FINDINGS TO DAIMLER IN LATE NOVEMBER 2009 AND THEY FILED A SAFETY RECALL (09V-462) ON DECEMBER 1, 2009 OUTLINING THEIR REMEDY PROGRAM. DAIMLER WILL RAISE THE MOUNTING POSITION OF THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL 0.75 INCHES TO RESOLVE THE CLEARANCE ISSUE. DAIMLER IS RECALLING THE SUBJECT VEHICLES PLUS MODEL YEAR 2011. THE ACTION TAKEN BY DAIMLER (THOMAS BUILT) RESOLVES THIS INVESTIGATION. ACCORDINGLY, THIS INVESTIGATION IS CLOSED.
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