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Old 05-31-2008, 08:14 PM   #21
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hard to run in a car with no kind of turning radius though
You dont need stopstix for them-just toss some rocks in front of his ride
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You dont need stopstix for them-just toss some rocks in front of his ride
you know...seriously...if my dept were authorized to pit someone...id be afraid to on some of these rides...either my front end would just slide up under his rear bumper and not hit anything or there would be an insane rollover crash
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I'm probably the only person on here who likes Fords?
Nope--I have fond memories of at least three Fords, so although I've never owned one personally, I can't hate them. My grandfather's baby was a red Fury (okay, Plymouth technically, but Ford more or less) that ran forever in spite of him taking it apart regularly just for fun. Hubby had a Pinto Wagon and a Granada when I met him, and they both ran forever, not to mention all the good times we had in both--I wouldn't try to stand on the hood of my Taco, but both of us danced on the hood of the Granada--literally! We used to joke that Yugos were made from old Granada doors. I won't even get started on the Pinto--the back might not have been entirely comfortable, but it was the version of the wagon without windows....y'all do the math...LOL! That thing could move too! First time I ever felt 110mph was in that car. Although that might have been the mustang engine that replaced the original that he blew....
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I believe Im a ford fan too... Havent personally owned one. But my father has owned many, and just about every single one ran like a champ and never quick. The best one, I loved, was his big f-350 4door LB, jacked up with exhaust and the works, I believe it was a 79'. That thing would raddle the house windows just at idle. It was great...Though it did get shitty mileage.
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Hmph.

My Dad had two Ford trucks that he beat the piss out of and they ran flawlessly for him. Only reason He sold them was because of gas.

I'm probably the only person on here who likes Fords?
nah....i still like fords........just that i like the old fords alot better than the new ones. i absolutely hate the newer f150's...........look like ass and are way under powered. i had an 02 f150......good truck, but then the tranny went out 1k miles after my extended warranty ran out(75k warranty.....tranny hit the shitter at 76k), and ford wouldnt help me out at all. and it was 2 weeks before christmas........so i said hell with them. went to toyota and havent looked back since. best move i have ever made.
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My Dad bought a new Ford in 1998. It was a F-250 4x4. Nice looking truck! He pulled up in the driveway one day, and when he shifted it to park, the shifter flew out of the driver side window ( wich was down at the time). He took it to Ford, and they told him it was "abuse". He told them it was bull**it. It was the last Ford he ever owned.
Wow! that really sucks..
On another note. We have a 1986 f250 that still runs great
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:18 AM   #27
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Hmph.

My Dad had two Ford trucks that he beat the piss out of and they ran flawlessly for him. Only reason He sold them was because of gas.

I'm probably the only person on here who likes Fords?
Same here. I will always love Toyotas, but Ford makes good trucks. Ive got 176,000 miles on my F-150 and (knock on wood) its still going strong.
I think its easy to come up with stories complaining about Fords just because there are so many of them out on the road. Ford sells more trucks in 1 month than Toyota sells in a whole year. More of them = more potential for people to have problems.
Its kinda like the same problem Toyota has had lately. Now that Toyota is making as many vehicles as Ford and GM are, you are seeing Toyota have just as many problems as Ford and GM have.
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I love the look of the F-250, 350 SD! freakin mean lookin with a lift! I looked at F-150's, Silverado's, and Sierra's before I got my taco and noticed ford trucks have two looks... loaded, expensive, and bad ass or cheap-o work truck... maybe the sales guy just showed me contrasting vehicles he barely spoke english (arab dude) and could not figure out pricing for my ford x-plan.
Sometimes I wonder where they get these salesmen, after the ford lot we went to toyota and the service sold the truck although no special pricing through (ford x-plan or GM partner) work kinda sucked.

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Thumbs down 96 (?) Winstar Potential Family Killer

I bought a brand new 96 (I think it was) Winstar for the wife & kids. About 3 years later I bought a 1999 4Runner (first Toyota).

One day, the wife calls and tells me she had a flat with the Winstar and somebody had installed the spare. She asked me if she should bring it to the dealer for a new tire. I said no - bring it to Cosco and get 2 new tires installed on the front. I get home that night and there is a 'loner' Winstar in the driveway, so I knew she had gone to the dealer, and not Cosco (she generally accepts the advice of anybody over me).

Anyhow I go in to 'discuss' where she bought the tires. She said "I went to Cosco, like you said and the guy looked at it, and called the dealer. The dealer was really nice and came and towed the Winstar, and they are going to replace the tires and fix everything at no charge. And they gave me a loaner in the meantime."

Now, I am not as stupid as I look, so I figured this wasn't just a flat tire. I went to the dealer. The front spring had self destructed, ripping the tire to shreds and taking out the brakes. She had just left the highway when this happened (up here average speed is about 70 - 80 miles/hour) and I have no doubt she would have lost control (along with most of the braking), and probably killed herself & the kids if this had happened a few minutes earlier.

I found a website which listed recalls. I found out that model of Winstar had more recalls that Toyota had had in its history. In particular, this problem was a known safety defect, which amazed me, since I had just had it serviced at the dealer. So I called the dealer. He said that recall was 'fix on failure' (presumably if you survived). Anyway I gave him a piece of my mind for not even mentioning it.

Then I went to the local Toyota dealer and bought a new Sienna. When the Winstar was ready, my wife drove it to the Toyota dealer as a trade in.

Last Ford I'll ever drive. They learned nothing from the Pinto.
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I bought a brand new 96 (I think it was) Winstar for the wife & kids. About 3 years later I bought a 1999 4Runner (first Toyota).

One day, the wife calls and tells me she had a flat with the Winstar and somebody had installed the spare. She asked me if she should bring it to the dealer for a new tire. I said no - bring it to Cosco and get 2 new tires installed on the front. I get home that night and there is a 'loner' Winstar in the driveway, so I knew she had gone to the dealer, and not Cosco (she generally accepts the advice of anybody over me).

Anyhow I go in to 'discuss' where she bought the tires. She said "I went to Cosco, like you said and the guy looked at it, and called the dealer. The dealer was really nice and came and towed the Winstar, and they are going to replace the tires and fix everything at no charge. And they gave me a loaner in the meantime."

Now, I am not as stupid as I look, so I figured this wasn't just a flat tire. I went to the dealer. The front spring had self destructed, ripping the tire to shreds and taking out the brakes. She had just left the highway when this happened (up here average speed is about 70 - 80 miles/hour) and I have no doubt she would have lost control (along with most of the braking), and probably killed herself & the kids if this had happened a few minutes earlier.

I found a website which listed recalls. I found out that model of Winstar had more recalls that Toyota had had in its history. In particular, this problem was a known safety defect, which amazed me, since I had just had it serviced at the dealer. So I called the dealer. He said that recall was 'fix on failure' (presumably if you survived). Anyway I gave him a piece of my mind for not even mentioning it.

Then I went to the local Toyota dealer and bought a new Sienna. When the Winstar was ready, my wife drove it to the Toyota dealer as a trade in.

Last Ford I'll ever drive. They learned nothing from the Pinto.
Wow, ...glad you guys are ok though....
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:19 PM   #33
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When I was in colege I drove a Ford escort pony. It was the bottom of the bottom line. It vibrated so bad, I thought I was driveing a paint shaker. And the wipers would activate at will.
Yea, but by the time you got your date home was she complaining?
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Yea, but by the time you got your date home was she complaining?
I couldnt get a date in that car.
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Hmph.

My Dad had two Ford trucks that he beat the piss out of and they ran flawlessly for him. Only reason He sold them was because of gas.

I'm probably the only person on here who likes Fords?

I like Ford Trucks. I love mine at least. more than 96kmi, running strong.

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I bought a brand new 96 (I think it was) Winstar for the wife & kids. About 3 years later I bought a 1999 4Runner (first Toyota).

One day, the wife calls and tells me she had a flat with the Winstar and somebody had installed the spare. She asked me if she should bring it to the dealer for a new tire. I said no - bring it to Cosco and get 2 new tires installed on the front. I get home that night and there is a 'loner' Winstar in the driveway, so I knew she had gone to the dealer, and not Cosco (she generally accepts the advice of anybody over me).

Anyhow I go in to 'discuss' where she bought the tires. She said "I went to Cosco, like you said and the guy looked at it, and called the dealer. The dealer was really nice and came and towed the Winstar, and they are going to replace the tires and fix everything at no charge. And they gave me a loaner in the meantime."

Now, I am not as stupid as I look, so I figured this wasn't just a flat tire. I went to the dealer. The front spring had self destructed, ripping the tire to shreds and taking out the brakes. She had just left the highway when this happened (up here average speed is about 70 - 80 miles/hour) and I have no doubt she would have lost control (along with most of the braking), and probably killed herself & the kids if this had happened a few minutes earlier.

I found a website which listed recalls. I found out that model of Winstar had more recalls that Toyota had had in its history. In particular, this problem was a known safety defect, which amazed me, since I had just had it serviced at the dealer. So I called the dealer. He said that recall was 'fix on failure' (presumably if you survived). Anyway I gave him a piece of my mind for not even mentioning it.

Then I went to the local Toyota dealer and bought a new Sienna. When the Winstar was ready, my wife drove it to the Toyota dealer as a trade in.

Last Ford I'll ever drive. They learned nothing from the Pinto.
Yikes. At least no one got hurt. The Windstar is a POS, always has been. Infact, the Windstar is currently being investigated by the NHTSA for fires. Apparently the Windstar uses the same cruise control switch that was involved in that big recall.
Ford makes good trucks, but their cars suck. Always have and they probably always will.
Ive driven Tauruses and Ive driven Camrys. Even the best Taurus couldnt hold a candle to the worst Camry.
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I can't say I hate-em, but I don't care for Ford. To their defense, however, My buddy has a 90 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer Edition and it's a tank. Also, in stock form, it holds it's own offroad.
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Have owned 2 Fords that I really liked. The first one was a 1st year 1986 Taurus. The car was the bomb. It was so far ahead of the competition(even Japanese) in driving dynamics, composure, looks, and had a decent amount of power. Got good mileage and turned heads for about 2 years until they became common on the road.

My first year Focus Hatch was a hoot to drive and YES, very reliable as it was Hecho en Mexico. Not near as many problems with them. The car had near telepathic steering. The 2.0L Zetec revved nice and made good sounds. The brakes could be easily modulated right to the edge of lockup time after time. The shifter and clutch were so smooth and the interior was very well appointed with quality materials. Made a big mistake trading for a 05 Accord. The most boring car ever made. Great motor and tranny, But the rest of the car was so average, you could fall asleep on a 25 mile commute.

Here is my theory on why Ford cars fail.. They put really good interiors and drivetrain parts during the first year or two of a new design. Then after the good press subsides they start cheapining up the cars for profit. By 1991 the Taurus sold 400.000 units a year without trying, so why make them good. Take the profits.

In 04 I drove a same level Focus as my 2000 and it had been so stripped, cheaper shifter, greasy clutch, hard plastic interior ect, it was hard to believe it was the same car. They even stripped out the sound insulation.

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Great read 91 never had those points of views on those two Fords! Very enlightening-especially the Taurus!! Like I said befor EVERYBODY has a Ford story in their life of some sort.
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Older Ford trucks are awesome! My first vehicle (it was actually my dads, i just drove it when i turned 16) was a dookie brown Ford F100 302 V8. it was the most basic truck you could buy. AC wasn't even an option. that thing lasted forever with very few issues, i loved it. Of course new Fords are a different story.....
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