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Mosin Nagant Discussion

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by YayAreaTaco0311, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. Mar 3, 2011 at 11:43 AM
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    I actually only have two, a 1941 Tula 91/30 and a 1939(IIRC) M38. We won't talk about how much ammo I have...

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    I'm not obsessed, but I have much respect for the round and the various rifles that are chambered for it. It makes for an excellent license plate that only fellow gunnies get. :cool:
     
  2. Mar 6, 2011 at 10:27 AM
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    my shoulder hurts just thinking of these rifles!! :D I love them though. I have a 1891 and a M44. They both needed windage adjustments when first bought them. I used a brass punch and a heavy hammer to drift the front sight. I eventually bought a slip on recoil pad and love shooting them. Most of the ammo is corrosive so I bring a squirt type waterbottle filled with windex and alcohol to pour down the bore after shooting. Then clean and oil it when I get home.
     
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    my buddy picked one up a couple months ago .
    I have shot it many times and love it .
    kicks,accurate, just a overall good time
     
  5. Jan 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM
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    I have some pretty fun guns but for the money I've had more fun with my Mosins than any other gun not to mention the cool history that comes along with it.

    Why haven’t you picked one up for yourself?
     
  6. Jan 16, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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    I love mine. It's prettymuch the same as yours OP. Make sure that you give the chamber a good polish and get you dremal out and polish up all the bearing surfaces.

    If you want to get the cosmoline out of the wood to refinish it, just heat it up and wipe it off.

    The great thing about a mosin is if you are tinkering and screw something up, parts are very very cheap. Good luck with your new project man :cheers:
     
  7. Jan 17, 2012 at 3:07 AM
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    I have a 1928 Tula M91/30 and a 1944 Tula M44. They are both lots of fun to shoot - the M44 especially falls into the shoulder buster category. I'm looking to pick up a 91/30 sniper soon.

    Another interesting rifle is the Finn M39. The Finns took captured and purchased 91/30s and converted them to their own M39s. These were mostly done pre-WWII so almost all are made from hex receivers. If a receiver would not put 10 rounds in a 1" group at 100 yards they trashed it. They added a new barrel and wood and sights. These rifles are accurate for military spec weapons. Mine is actually built from a French-contract supplied Mosin receiver made in 1894. It shoots like a champ.

    And, you can always grab a Nagant Revolver. Nagant believed that the loss of gas pressure from the gap between the cylinder and barrel on a typical revolver seriously affected muzzle velocity (it doesn't). So, he created a system where, just before the hammer drops on the cartridge, the cylinder slides forward and seals the gap - the shell casings are actually made more narrow at the tip to help the seal.

    The bad news on theses pistols is that the mechanism and tight fit of the casings means you can't rapidly extract the empty casings - each one has to be manually ejected by turning the cylinder and using the ejector rod. Imagine doing that in the middle of a heated battle with the Germans rushing at you.

    The up side is that the gas seal makes it a very quiet weapon - it is oneof the few (might be the only) revolver that can be effectivelt silenced and the KGB used them into the 60's before they produced an effective semi-automatic pistol.

    The last gun show I was at I found a guy with a crate of pistols - as well as a crate of 91/30s. $100 for the pistol out the door. Unfortunately, the ammo can be hard to find and a bit expensive...but, heck, how many rounds do you need to have some fun?
     
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    I got one. Love it. Damn accurate at 300 yards. I was hittin the iron pig all day at 300 yards.
     
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    so i should get one?

    i can spare a hundred bucks
     
  10. Jan 17, 2012 at 5:28 AM
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    Ammo is easy to find - and inexpensive - and they are fun to shoot. For the price, I think they are a good buy. So, yes, I'd recommend you buy one.

    Remember that most ammo out there is corrossive. So, you have to clean them differently and more often. Personally, I take out the bolt and pour warm water down the barrel, dry well and then oil. Then, do the same thing the next day. Some people like to use Windex to pour down the barrel - but I find that water works just fine.
     
  11. Jan 17, 2012 at 6:44 AM
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    I have the carbine model 1948,
    I can only get about 7 rounds through it before my bolt sticks and won't let me open it without putting it on the ground and giving a sharp kick
     
  12. Jan 17, 2012 at 7:31 AM
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    I'd have a gunsmith check the headspace. Sounds like you're getting a powder buildup so you might be getting some blowback because of improper headspace. Also, give that sucker a very good cleaning - might be residue buildup from the corrossive powder.

    Another interesting aside - the M44 carbines were designed to be fired with the bayonet extended. The spring mechanism puts stress on the barrel and can cause as much as a 6 inch difference in the strike of the bullet if not extended.
     
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    Did you clean out the cosmoline? Sometimes if you dont clean it out well it will melt and reharden around your the locking lugs and cause sticky bolt. This is the most common cause for sticky bolt.
     
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    I'm trying to be good and save money so I can buy my first house IT SUCKS ! Haha
    Very fun gun to shot though "some day" I'll pick one up
     
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    I can totally spare the $100 for one. Any pointers to make sure I get a good one?
     
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    I have a hex and a round for the couple extra bucks I would get the hex. The hex receivers are generally a better build quality and much harder to find.

    Also if possible buy local and support your local gun shop, this way you don't have to deal FFL fees transferring a gun and you get to hand pick it. :infantry:
     
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    I was ready to cut up one of my Mosins and make one of these pistols but come to find out ATF is ok if you turn a pistol into a rifle but not a rifle into a pistol. I’ve gone through the class III hoops for firearms in the past but doesn’t make sense on a $100 rifle.

    I would love to shoot one though.
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    not true. if you put a stock on a pistol that isn't classified as a curio/relic then you need to make sure it has a 16 inch barrel or you'll pay the man. lots of people convert AR-15's to pistols. throw on a shorter buffer tube and a shorter barrel and it's perfectly legal as long as there is no stock on the buffer tube.
     

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