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Old 01-07-2012, 07:04 PM   #1
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Gun Show tomorrow... Advice?

I currently own a Glock 23 .40 cal that I keep in the truck, and a .357 magnum 6-shooter that I keep in the house. The wife says that two guns are enough, and I'm OK with that.

I'm headed to a gun show w/ the father in law tomorrow and I'm considering getting a different gun for the house. I've really liked the Glock, and am considering getting a Glock 21... Another .40 cal.

My father in law just got a Taurus Judge for home defense, and it made me think about one of those. (Basically a hand gun that shoots small shotgun shells or Colt .45 rounds.)

I want to stick with a hand gun, not a shotgun, and I thought I'd get some opinions before I go tomorrow.

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1911 in 45ACP or CZ-75 P-01 in 9mm, don't get another Glock... If you want to stay with a polymer gun, take a look at the FNP-9/40 or the FNX-9/40, or go all out with a FNP-45 - I have a FNP-45 and it is a great gun, good grip, easy to shoot and 15+1 rnds of 45ACP.

And 9mm is not a wimpy round if you can shoot a gun and you put good defensive ammo in it. I keep two 9mm loaded in my house and then 2 more 9x18mm Makarovs loaded and then a 1911 in 45ACP, all strategically through my house, I am never far from one.
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The G21 45 cal. is a super nice gun. Since I already have enough Glocks I'm eyeing either a Springfield XDM Compact in the 9mm or a Smith and Wesson M&P compact 9mm. Both are an excellent choice with a great reputation and both come in a full size as well as .40. Good luck.
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I meant a Glock 22, not 21. Sorry. I was considering the .40 to have consistent ammo.

On a phone now... Will read more and respond more, soon. Thanks!
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G22 is a great gun I've put well over 2,000 rounds down range with mine with 8 jams due to bad ammo sold that box to a guy at the range and never had a problem again. It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission sometimes.
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Glock 35 or xdm 40 or 45 .
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Get a shotgun Saiga 12 or something you have some nice hand guns. Also look at the XDM .45 if you want. I think my next purchase will be a FN Five-seven.
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Matt, many times gun shows have higher prices on actual firearms than if you bought them in a store

Decide now how much you are willing to spend and then go have a look around

You said you've really liked the G23, so I don't know why you'd look any further than another Glock if you are looking for a semi-auto specifically

One good thing about Glocks is that you can find them used all the time in many places for much cheaper than the new price ~$550

The last one I bought was a 3rd gen 23 for $400 and it still had the copper shipping lube on it

While I agree with many of the other suggestions as being fine firearms, you KNOW you like the Glock plus with a 22 and a 23, you can switch out holsters, etc...and 22 mags will work in a 23

What I would personally do, is take this opportunity to put your feelers out as to what exists

Go handle as many pistols as you can that interest you while you're there, buy some ammo (because that usually can be found for a deal at shows) and get a good idea of what you want to purchase in the future

Then shop around

Do not pay retail for a firearm

For example, the last 2 firearms I bought, I paid right at 50% what they would cost retail new, because I waited, and shopped, and waited, and shopped etc

I paid $500 for a $1000 Kimber 1911
$525 for a $900 S&W 629 with a $500 scope on it

Also, keep an eye here:
http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/alabama/all



Oh and while you are at the show, if you find something that you may think is a smoking deal, get on gunbroker.com on your phone and check current going prices for similar firearms to get an idea of how smoking it is
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Also, if you're interested in selling the .357 to accommodate the wifey etc etc let me know





Also, I carry a 3rd gen G22 on duty, and I've put probably close to 10K rounds down the pipe with exactly ZERO malfunctions except deliberately caused jams for training purposes

I've cleaned it 4 times

It is singlehandedly the most reliable gun I own
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Ever hear a strange noise in the house when ur on the shitter?
When u can grab a gun while keeping ur ass planted on the pot at the same time........while not having to move around ur door gun, garage gun, office gun, bedroom gun, kitchen gun, hip gun, extra bedroom gun..........then u have "enough" guns

But u can never have " too many"
I don't like keeping mine stashed about places other than in my safe

I keep 2 out at all times, my off-duty carry and my duty weapon
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The whole "shitter" gun sounded cool tho
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Mine goes in there with me too
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I suggest you shop around first just as TigerFan00 pointed out. Secondly, I would like to say that you may like the Glock, but how much experience do you really have with other firearms? I used to think that Sigarms was the best, but it was my first, and since then I have tried Kimber, River Rock Arms, HK, Taurus (including the "judge", CZ, Glock, Smith and Wesson, and Kahr. After shooting several variants in different calibers, frames, and styles, I have come to find that I like my HK 45 USP Compact the best. I have put through more than 3000 rds without ever having one jam! I like the accuracy, and it makes a great conceal carry/outdoor sidearm.

It all depends on what your intent is with the weapon. For home defense I would suggest the shotgun for several reasons. (1) You already have pistols (2) You are more likely to hit your target with a spread shot (3) cheap (4) ammo is easy to modify / cheap / several variants (5) you have to consider where the round will go after you shoot someone. With the pistols you will most likely shoot through the person or possibly miss and shoot past the person, where the bullet goes after that is the scary part. With the shotgun using bird shot you wont have too much to worry about!
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You said you've really liked the G23, so I don't know why you'd look any further than another Glock if you are looking for a semi-auto specifically

One good thing about Glocks is that you can find them used all the time in many places for much cheaper than the new price ~$550

The last one I bought was a 3rd gen 23 for $400 and it still had the copper shipping lube on it

While I agree with many of the other suggestions as being fine firearms, you KNOW you like the Glock plus with a 22 and a 23, you can switch out holsters, etc...and 22 mags will work in a 23

What I would personally do, is take this opportunity to put your feelers out as to what exists

Go handle as many pistols as you can that interest you while you're there, buy some ammo (because that usually can be found for a deal at shows) and get a good idea of what you want to purchase in the future

Then shop around

Do not pay retail for a firearm

For example, the last 2 firearms I bought, I paid right at 50% what they would cost retail new, because I waited, and shopped, and waited, and shopped etc

I paid $500 for a $1000 Kimber 1911
$525 for a $900 S&W 629 with a $500 scope on it

Also, keep an eye here:
http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/alabama/all



Oh and while you are at the show, if you find something that you may think is a smoking deal, get on gunbroker.com on your phone and check current going prices for similar firearms to get an idea of how smoking it is
IMHO ... being comfortable with the weapon is one of the most important factors. The brand that feels right to one might not feel right to another. If it feels good and is reliable ... why change??

And as usual, All of what TigerFan is saying here makes a lot of sense to me! I'll probably carry some of it with me the next time the gun buying bug strikes. Thanks TF!
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First of all, thanks to everybody for the opinions. I think I got exactly what I was hoping for.

Second, to the guys who say that 2 isn't enough... I agree. Two guns is a compromise b/w me and the wife, and I'm really OK with it. I'll have one for the truck and one for the car, and that's my goal. We're just weeks away from having our first child, and even I don't like the idea of guns stashed around the house. The one inside stays in a GunVault by the bed, and the one in the truck is in my glovebox safe.

I'm a good shot w/ the pistol, and I practice a lot. I know a shotgun is the ultimate for home defense, but a pistol is more practical for me right now.

Sorry about the Glock 21/22 mix up. I meant 22 all the time.

Jeff, the advice to "just look at the show then shop around" is excellent. You might have saved me a few hundred. Expect your commission check in the mail soon.

I'm going to handle a bunch of .40 guns, and some .45s today, too. I agree that being comfortable with the gun is the most important thing. I've been very happy with my Glock 23, and I've put a few hundred rounds through my father-in-law's Glock 22 (yes, I meant 22 this time ), and I'm very comfortable with it, too.

I also happen to love how quickly and easily the glocks come apart for cleaning.


(The more I listen to myself, the more I think the 22 will be the answer...)


ANYWAY, thanks again for all of the advice. I"ll let y'all know what happens.
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hey op went to the show @ bjcc myself. i went in hopes to get a pistol but instead walked off with a great deal on a new ruger mini 14. cant wait to see what you got.
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