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View Poll Results: do you keep a round chambered when you carry?
Yes - keep one chambered 674 84.04%
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:01 PM   #261
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No for a few reasons:
1: I'm only 18 so I can only carry on private property w/ permission (It's a heck of a lot less likely it would ever see use)
2: It's a Glock...no safety.
3: I can rack the slide very quickly.
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Most likely, he doesn't. Single action revolvers like the ones he's wearing (Colt Single Action Army; AKA Peacemaker; AKA SAA) are only safe to carry with the hammer down over an EMPTY chamber, unless the revolver in question is of a modern design, incorporating a transfer bar.

You'll notice that he cocks the hammer before firing... that advances a LOADED chamber in line with the hammer/barrel. If all six chambers were loaded the firing pin (integral with hammer) can easily contact the primer with enough force to discharge the round.
Didn't gun fighters keep a $5 bill in the empty chamber, to pay for their burial?
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So a gallon of diesel today is as expensive as a funeral back in the day?
You could get a shave and a haircut for $0.25
1908, a new car was $200-$400.
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i don't have any handguns i guess things arnt as scary up here in canada so don't see a need for everyone to carry and I'm honestly happy we can't.

not looking to get into a gun debate just my $.02

that being said i do have a few guns. sks, remington 870 and a .22 rife.

i only have these on me when camping/wheeling. they are unloaded when in the truck but once camp is set up or I'm stopped to cook lunch the 12 gauge sits loaded with safety on and one in the chamber and is within reach.

the .22 i might as well just slap whatever is coming at me cause it isn't gona protect me unless I'm being attacked by a gang of squirrels.

the sks has an issue with slam fire so its never loaded unless I'm about to shoot it.
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Didn't gun fighters keep a $5 bill in the empty chamber, to pay for their burial?
I hadn't heard that, but it would have to be paper currency; I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that most currency in the "wild west" was coined.

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i don't have any handguns i guess things arnt as scary up here in canada so don't see a need for everyone to carry and I'm honestly happy we can't.

not looking to get into a gun debate just my $.02

that being said i do have a few guns. sks, remington 870 and a .22 rife.

i only have these on me when camping/wheeling. they are unloaded when in the truck but once camp is set up or I'm stopped to cook lunch the 12 gauge sits loaded with safety on and one in the chamber and is within reach.

the .22 i might as well just slap whatever is coming at me cause it isn't gona protect me unless I'm being attacked by a gang of squirrels.

the sks has an issue with slam fire so its never loaded unless I'm about to shoot it.
Sounds like you have a reasonable, safe, plan. No debate needed; I respect your right to choose not to own or carry handguns; most gun owners do.

We only ask that you respect our right to choose otherwise I do wonder one thing - you apparently feel the need for a defensive shotgun in camp or wheeling; a handgun serves the same purpose, but can be more readily at hand. A handgun DOES require considerably more training and practice to become proficient at a basic level than a shotgun, but otherwise, they are just different tools for the same job...

You should get that SKS looked at by a competent gunsmith; slam fire can be extremely dangerous. And btw... squirrel makes a damned find stew...
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X2. It should be relatively easy to fix. The SKS has a free-floating firing pin, which can be stuck in the forward position if fouled with too much gunk, cosmoline or if the pin was installed upside down.
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No for a few reasons:
1: I'm only 18 so I can only carry on private property w/ permission (It's a heck of a lot less likely it would ever see use)
2: It's a Glock...no safety.
3: I can rack the slide very quickly.
Is that Ga law? Here in NC you can open carry at 18.

I'm still a little lost as to why anybody would carry a gun unloaded. If you treat guns as if they were always loaded(which you should) then it should make no difference whether there's one in the tube or not.
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Is that Ga law? Here in NC you can open carry at 18.

I'm still a little lost as to why anybody would carry a gun unloaded. If you treat guns as if they were always loaded(which you should) then it should make no difference whether there's one in the tube or not.


i dont like to on a striker fired unless i'm in the ghetto. i dont trust it enough not to fire if it's dropped. they say it shouldnt, but alot of things shouldnt happen, that do. that extra 2 seconds to rack the slide gives me 2 seconds to think before i have to shoot. but also, i constantly go on a military base and loaded is a big no no for them, so it'd be a hassle to eject a shell about every day.
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i dont like to on a striker fired unless i'm in the ghetto. i dont trust it enough not to fire if it's dropped. they say it shouldnt, but alot of things shouldnt happen, that do. that extra 2 seconds to rack the slide gives me 2 seconds to think before i have to shoot. but also, i constantly go on a military base and loaded is a big no no for them, so it'd be a hassle to eject a shell about every day.
At least the Glock and Springfield striker fired have a positive block that prevents the pin from moving forward if dropped.
The 1911 is the one that is more worrisome. The pin is completely free-floating and a drop on the muzzle theoretically could impact the primer.
I'm running a titanium pin in mine for the added safety.

But honestly, part of the California acceptance testing is a drop test. A number of guns have failed the test and been recalled/redesigned by the manufacturers because of that (Ruger LCP is one, I think there was a Smith as well).
If a gun is on the California roster, it's not going to fire from being dropped.
If it's not on the roster, it may still be safe... CA changed a couple of rules, so in a number of cases, two identical guns are not both listed, because the newer one lacks a magazine disconnect (can't be fired with the mag out), or perhaps lacks a loaded chamber indicator (which can be as simple as some red paint on the side of the extractor).
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I always keep one chambered in my glock21 sf!
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No for a few reasons:
1: I'm only 18 so I can only carry on private property w/ permission (It's a heck of a lot less likely it would ever see use)
2: It's a Glock...no safety.
3: I can rack the slide very quickly.
1) Ok.
2) The Glock has several safeties. They are all automatic.
3) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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3: I can rack the slide very quickly.
Tell me more about how you know exactly how you will need to defend yourself....


I always carry one in the pipe. Ready to go at a moments notice. (Glock 19 with 135+P Critical Duty)
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:10 AM   #274
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1) Ok.
2) The Glock has several safeties. They are all automatic.
3) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Those safeties don't stop a snag on the center of the trigger. It may be extremely unlikely to happen - but there's still that chance

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I always carry one in the pipe. Ready to go at a moments notice. (Glock 19 with 135+P Critical Duty)
The most likely scenario I'd be in would be a home invasion. The sound of the slide racking may be more of a deterrent than the sight of the gun. Plus I'd have plenty of time to rack it
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Is that Ga law? Here in NC you can open carry at 18.

I'm still a little lost as to why anybody would carry a gun unloaded. If you treat guns as if they were always loaded(which you should) then it should make no difference whether there's one in the tube or not.
No open carry without "weapons license" or something like that. But I think the age on that is still 21
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Those safeties don't stop a snag on the center of the trigger. It may be extremely unlikely to happen - but there's still that chance



The most likely scenario I'd be in would be a home invasion. The sound of the slide racking may be more of a deterrent than the sight of the gun. Plus I'd have plenty of time to rack it

middle of the night...completely dark

why would you give away your biggest tactical advantage by letting the bad guys know a)youre there b)you have a gun and c)where the fuck you are hiding

if they are intending to do you harm...well...you just fucked yourself
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middle of the night...completely dark

why would you give away your biggest tactical advantage by letting the bad guys know a)youre there b)you have a gun and c)where the fuck you are hiding

if they are intending to do you harm...well...you just fucked yourself
^^^^^^ This.

That whole racking the shotgun crap will get you shot. Real life isn't a movie.

As far as snagging the corner of the trigger... on a Glock, you must depress the center "safe action" lever to pull the trigger. If you somehow manage to put something in the trigger guard to do this while reholstering or holding the firearm, you wasn't trained properly enough to handle a firearm. We only hear of this phenomena occurring among untrained and unsafe
people. (And people who think hanging their gun on the hook in the bathroom is a good idea)
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Not having a round in the chamber is like not having the Halon in a fire extinguisher......until you need it. You either trust your weapons handling skills or you don't.
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Slam fire is usually an indication of a weak firing pin spring.
The newest series of 1911's has a firing pin safety, which eliminated drop firing. How many of these mythical drop firings actually happen, IDK.

I will only carry a pistol which will allow me to carry with one in the chamber. If you are in a position to defend yourself, it will be a high pressure situation. Your fine motor skills degrade while your adrenaline is flowing. Racking the slide may become problematic. It also adds to your reaction time, which is at a premium in that situation.
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middle of the night...completely dark

why would you give away your biggest tactical advantage by letting the bad guys know a)youre there b)you have a gun and c)where the fuck you are hiding

if they are intending to do you harm...well...you just fucked yourself
This, the only sound they should hear is your gun going off.
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