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Old 09-28-2013, 05:44 PM   #201
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if you want a starter 1911 you could always go with the rock island 1911. made in the Philippines. its around the 600 range. like i said its pretty much a starter 1911 without spending an arm and a leg. also if you want to customize it and bring it to a gun smith it will be less then buying a high end gun and shoot just as good or even better. this is the route im going and so far I have no problems with my gun and I enjoying customizing my weapon to the way i want it to feel and look.

either way good luck in the decision you make.
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My dads gunsmith told him that he personally thought Kimber was the best.
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:38 PM   #203
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Advantages of the standard GI model:
Non-ambi, smaller safety = Less likely to be bumped "off"
Plug and shorter guide rod = If you become partially disabled during the encounter, you can rack the slide on the edge of a table or the heel of your shoe.

Advantages of the upgraded "Tactical" type:
Beavertail grip safety prevents hammer bite
Larger ejection port
Taller sights


I bought an RIA Tactical and "downgraded" the safety and guide rod to standard Colt GI parts.
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IMO,

For the money, you could buy a Kimber and run it stock. It is a great gun, the quality control has been lacking lately, you may have to send it back to Kimber for warranty work on a brand new gun, which sucks but after the shop hooks it up, great gun for life!

Or,

Buy a Springfield and find a quality gunsmith to add a couple upgrades, if needed (per your preference) or just spend the balance of your budget on ammo.

I have both and enjoy shooting my Kimber as much as my Springfield. Happy shooting...
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First off I will say that I am not a firearms expert but I have experience with all three major brands mentioned. Personally I would go with a Springfield. I own an MC Operator and find it to be a fabulous gun and with Springfield you get a warranty for the life of the gun. So even a second hand Springfield will have will have the same warranty as a new gun.
Kimbers are very nice guns and I've enjoyed shooting them. The one thing about Kimbers, and I'm not sure why, only come with a one year warranty. If I'm going to spend 1k plus on a gun I want a better warranty than one year.
I have found Colts to be lacking in fit and finish. I know I'm going to catch flak for this but its true. For a 1k plus gun rattling triggers and sharp edges just don't fly with me.
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My dads gunsmith told him that he personally thought Kimber was the best.
Kimber has actually sold 1911s with plastic mainspring housing.

They should spend a bit less on marketing and put that into some parts that are not junk.
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:10 PM   #207
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Go "full Brazilian" and get a Taurus PT1911, then drop in a Wilson Combat magazine for reliability...

Taurus, more bling for your buck!



This years model comes standard with a bubble level so you can pop a cap anywhere from 45 to 90 degrees from vertical!
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Kimber has actually sold 1911s with plastic mainspring housing.

They should spend a bit less on marketing and put that into some parts that are not junk.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:34 AM   #211
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First off I will say that I am not a firearms expert but I have experience with all three major brands mentioned. Personally I would go with a Springfield. I own an MC Operator and find it to be a fabulous gun and with Springfield you get a warranty for the life of the gun. So even a second hand Springfield will have will have the same warranty as a new gun.
Kimbers are very nice guns and I've enjoyed shooting them. The one thing about Kimbers, and I'm not sure why, only come with a one year warranty. If I'm going to spend 1k plus on a gun I want a better warranty than one year.
I have found Colts to be lacking in fit and finish. I know I'm going to catch flak for this but its true. For a 1k plus gun rattling triggers and sharp edges just don't fly with me.
It's a known fact that Colt has some of the loosest tolerances and 'machining' among 1911 producers...Yet the fanboys rave on.
Here is a bit of correct information that will chap a few 'expert' asses....http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/...rts-1911s.html
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:10 PM   #212
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It's a known fact that Colt has some of the loosest tolerances and 'machining' among 1911 producers...Yet the fanboys rave on.
Here is a bit of correct information that will chap a few 'expert' asses....http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/...rts-1911s.html
I would check your sources. In the past couple years colt has been producing some of their best pistols. They have definitely turned things around and are putting out excellent pistols with much better for and finish than colts of the past. They definitely went through a low, but many experts will agree that Current production Colts are a great investment.
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I'm going to say Springfield... I have a stainless milspec and have probably 2000-2200 rounds in it. It runs like a champ. Eats everything I feed it, can't complain.
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anyone know anything about llama 1911's imported by stoeger?

got a deal on one local if i want it. just wondering if i could get some input on it from you guys. thanks...
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I know my buddy's dad has one, it seems decent. And rappers rap about then...

How much are they asking?
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I know my buddy's dad has one, it seems decent. And rappers rap about then...

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asking 300 but probly gonna offer 250
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anyone know anything about llama 1911's imported by stoeger?

got a deal on one local if i want it. just wondering if i could get some input on it from you guys. thanks...
I have shot LLama 1911 clones...they are not exactly 1911's by the strictest standards.
Decent firearm. Good steel. No bells and whistles.
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I would check your sources. In the past couple years colt has been producing some of their best pistols. They have definitely turned things around and are putting out excellent pistols with much better for and finish than colts of the past. They definitely went through a low, but many experts will agree that Current production Colts are a great investment.
I have posted before that I would only buy a new Colt if it was made on the updated tooling.
Still, the worship they receive is not warranted.
STI Spartan is a better firearm.
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I have posted before that I would only buy a new Colt if it was made on the updated tooling.
Still, the worship they receive is not warranted.
STI Spartan is a better firearm.
do you really think the colt's of the past are that bad? ive shot many and own a series 80 commander that im in love with and will pass down. ill agree the new colt's that are made now are better, but i still think the old colt's are pretty special.
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if you want a starter 1911 you could always go with the rock island 1911. made in the Philippines. its around the 600 range. like i said its pretty much a starter 1911 without spending an arm and a leg. also if you want to customize it and bring it to a gun smith it will be less then buying a high end gun and shoot just as good or even better. this is the route im going and so far I have no problems with my gun and I enjoying customizing my weapon to the way i want it to feel and look.

either way good luck in the decision you make.
Agreed good starter for about 500 thats for the tactical I wouldn't pay much more then that. I love my kimber
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