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Old 09-18-2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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Thine Ruger LCP

I was thinking about buying one, mainly because it is the flattest/lightest/cheapest/tiny-esque type of .380 auto-loader at that price range. Some people had horror stories, others praise it....So I figured I would ask the well-rounded-scientifically-skeptical-mechanically inclined community that is TacomaWorld. Who owns a LCP here? and how has it treated you? I basically want a .380 that will replace my pocket knife. I love the P238, but so expensively impractical for its weight, Price, larger size, and same capacity.

Pisses me off that SIG makes such a MILSPEC .380, but they outsource their .22LR pistols to GSG...I wish they would make the SIG P.22 in the same 238. for $400. Anyhow...Any first hand accounts of the LCP by you guys greatly appreciated.

Its no Glock...but its smaller than my cock? so..wallet size.
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LCP is a good gun.. crappy sights though..
I bought a taurus TCP.. very similar to the LCP... that sits at home now and I use a sig p238... yes, heavier.. but nicer to shoot.. and if your going to carry a gun.. shoot it alot.
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LCP is a good gun.. crappy sights though..
I bought a taurus TCP.. very similar to the LCP... that sits at home now and I use a sig p238... yes, heavier.. but nicer to shoot.. and if your going to carry a gun.. shoot it alot.
I concur..The sights are non existent. I love the 238. superb quality and sights. Mini 1911. I guess I could get the dovetail machined down a bit to shorten it. etc.. Its just still an expensive gun..however worth it for the full metal 1911 features. I guess my main concern is the cycling ability of the LCP. Upon its release there were issues...(to be expected) but I could definitely train myself on it...(If I found .380 ammo)....to shoot it...

My other thought was the NAA Pug revolver....which to me is genius. It has a Trijicon front post..and a dove rear..which actually seems to be quite effective in accuracy tests. It is a .22MAg revolver, but I have never seen such great ammo for 22 mag in modern times. It may lack mass but it sure does pack speed and shrapnel capabilities in modern polymer tips.

Im gonna have to shoot around and see what is the best tiny ass gun I can get.
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I've owned 2 LCPs

Pretty nice for what they are...which is a short range, last ditch shove it in their chest and empty the mag pocket pistol

With that being said, a little fluorescent paint will help the sights quite a bit
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We had our yearly weapon quals for our dept. this past Monday. Four Dep. had the LCPs. Two guys qualified no problem, the other two had jamming issues. Once the two guys stopped limp wristing the guns, they qualified no problem. Our qualifications for back up guns takes us out to 15yrds. The sights are sufficient for that range if YOU do your part.

Like Tigerfan00 said, the gun is fine for it's intended use. I don't see the need to spend more money to accomplish the same task.
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We had our yearly weapon quals for our dept. this past Monday. Four Dep. had the LCPs. Two guys qualified no problem, the other two had jamming issues. Once the two guys stopped limp wristing the guns, they qualified no problem. Our qualifications for back up guns takes us out to 15yrds. The sights are sufficient for that range if YOU do your part.

Like Tigerfan00 said, the gun is fine for it's intended use. I don't see the need to spend more money to accomplish the same task.
unless you want factory night sights, a 1911 platform, and a gun thats actually fun to take to the range and shoot lots!
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unless you want factory night sights, a 1911 platform, and a gun thats actually fun to take to the range and shoot lots!
Thats not the intended use of an LCP

Plenty of guns fill that market but the LCP is designed to be a back up or last ditch option...its not designed to be taken to the range for hundreds of rounds each time

It is however a reliable last ditch point and shoot (no sights required) pump all 7 rounds into the dude who is on top of you beating your face in weapon
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Thats not the intended use of an LCP

Plenty of guns fill that market but the LCP is designed to be a back up or last ditch option...its not designed to be taken to the range for hundreds of rounds each time

It is however a reliable last ditch point and shoot (no sights required) pump all 7 rounds into the dude who is on top of you beating your face in weapon
Affirmative. Plus .380 is not only expensive ammo, but increasingly rare
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If you decide you'd rather have a 9mm, let me know. I have an LC9 that I'm looking to sell for about $325. Originally bought it for the wife, but she decided she likes the wheel gun more.
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unless you want factory night sights, a 1911 platform, and a gun thats actually fun to take to the range and shoot lots!
Msrp for the Sig is $643.00, msrp for the LCP is 379.00.
Yes, both guns can be had cheaper. But for the intended purpose of the gun, I'll save my hard earned money. Take the almost $300 saved and put it toward a full size 1911 and have it all. A fun gun to shoot and one that you will carry everyday and won't cry if it gets sweaty, sandy, muddy, rusty, holster wear etc.
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I've owned 2 LCPs

Pretty nice for what they are...which is a short range, last ditch shove it in their chest and empty the mag pocket pistol

With that being said, a little fluorescent paint will help the sights quite a bit
I would have to agree.
The downside of the LCP is it's so thin, it's painful to shoot.
The Sig is a MUCH nicer gun to shoot and look at.
For some, that counts......
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I would have to agree.
The downside of the LCP is it's so thin, it's painful to shoot.
The Sig is a MUCH nicer gun to shoot and look at.
For some, that counts......
But its far less painful to survive an attack
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I've got a P238 also - love it - carry it all the time. It is a nicer more fun to shoot gun that the LCP - but I will admit for $200-$250 less the LCP will do nearly the same job. I would say that the P238 is a little better than just point and shoot at arms length though. Its got pretty good sights and it is pretty accurate (at least I am pretty accurate with it) out to 10-15 yds. Another one to look at before going with the LCP is the new Beretta Pico. It is about the same size as the LCP - but it is a little heavier (not as heavy as the P238) - so might be a little more pleasant to shoot - I think MSRP is $399.
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Another $100 gets you a Kahr CW9.
An upgrade in every way.
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Thats not the intended use of an LCP

Plenty of guns fill that market but the LCP is designed to be a back up or last ditch option...its not designed to be taken to the range for hundreds of rounds each time

It is however a reliable last ditch point and shoot (no sights required) pump all 7 rounds into the dude who is on top of you beating your face in weapon
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Msrp for the Sig is $643.00, msrp for the LCP is 379.00.
Yes, both guns can be had cheaper. But for the intended purpose of the gun, I'll save my hard earned money. Take the almost $300 saved and put it toward a full size 1911 and have it all. A fun gun to shoot and one that you will carry everyday and won't cry if it gets sweaty, sandy, muddy, rusty, holster wear etc.

yup, yup,.. I agree that the LCP is good at what it is designed for.. all im saying is if your buying a 380 for more than a last ditch gun.. the sig is a nice choice as it is a fun range gun as well.
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Thanks for the inputs. I mainly want a .380 to carry as a deep concealment weightless burdenless last resort, when I dont wanna lug my normal G26. I really admire the 238, but as Front sight said, it will endure lots of wear and corrosion over time. I dont know whether I would want to put such a beautiful gun like the 238 through the daily grind, so it may be the LCP. I do think the 238 is by far one of the nicest .380s in existence tho for sure, I just havent really seen a flatter/shorter .380 than the Ruger/keltec.
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I love when people bag on the LCP's sights.

This is two spiders and a fly from about 15 feet (probably more) the day I bought it.







So yeah... for self defense purposes I'd say it can perform the task as long as the shooter does. I carry either a G19 or XDs 9mm as my primary but this little rusted our LCP lives in a pocket holster as my backup and regularly pulls primary duty if I'm wearing gym shorts or something. It's just fine.
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I love when people bag on the LCP's sights.

This is two spiders and a fly from about 15 feet (probably more) the day I bought it.







So yeah... for self defense purposes I'd say it can perform the task as long as the shooter does. I carry either a G19 or XDs 9mm as my primary but this little rusted our LCP lives in a pocket holster as my backup and regularly pulls primary duty if I'm wearing gym shorts or something. It's just fine.

sights still are not the greatest in a bad situation and with little to no light. given the choice ill take my big ol night sights
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sights still are not the greatest in a bad situation and with little to no light. given the choice ill take my big ol night sights
Congratulations. You missed the point entirely.

In a perfect situation I'd be rocking an AR15 but let's be realistic... sometimes the task at hand calls for compromises. While the sights on the LCP aren't industry leading they're most certainly serviceable and, as I've proven, can be mighty effective. In a SD situation they will work just fine.

BTW, if you're shooting in the dark w/o some sort of light and relying on your fancy night sights you're screwed anyway. I carry a nice light too so night sights aren't a deal breaker for me. Hell, in a SD situation when lives are on the line you might be surprised how much of the sights you actually see... if at all.

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Congratulations. You missed the point entirely.

In a perfect situation I'd be rocking an AR15 but let's be realistic... sometimes the task at hand calls for compromises. While the sights on the LCP aren't industry leading they're most certainly serviceable and, as I've proven, can be mighty effective. In a SD situation they will work just fine.

BTW, if you're shooting in the dark w/o some sort of light and relying on your fancy night sights you're screwed anyway. I carry a nice light too so night sights aren't a deal breaker for me. Hell, in a SD situation when lives are on the line you might be surprised how much of the sights you actually see... if at all.

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