sad day for cali gun owners

[gww0517]

Reading this just pisses me off even more!!!

[chad68]

So they finger print you when you buy ammo, big deal. Now if they imposed and cooling off period on buying ammo I would be pissed.

[gww0517]

Good point

[NraFan]

Originally Posted by chad68

So they finger print you when you buy ammo, big deal. Now if they imposed and cooling off period on buying ammo I would be pissed.

Its more than just fingerprinting. Read the new law. No more online sales. No more accesability to the ammunition. Now you have to REGISTER your ammo purchases. Just another way for the government to keep track on law abiding gun owners. Wait until someone near your town is killed with similar ammo that you purchased and they come to knock on your door to question you. Take the ammo you bought to test it. Maybe they want to check your guns. And so on.... It more than just fingerprinting. And if you are a gun owner who feels this law is ok then you are just helping the government take away your freedoms. You might as well turn your guns in and walk away from the sport if you arent going to fight for gun owners rights.

[texasbowhunter]

Thank GOD I live in Texas and don't have to deal with all this bullshit. This state respects the rights of gun owners. Just look at the Castle Doctrine.
http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/200...doctrine-laws/

[db67fm]

They have been fingerprinting ammo buyers in LA City for years now. I always go to a Walmart or Turners outside of Los Angeles city (such as Santa Clarita or Pasadena...)

Los Angeles County is still no fingerprinting...

[NraFan]

Originally Posted by db67fm

They have been fingerprinting ammo buyers in LA City for years now. I always go to a Walmart or Turners outside of Los Angeles city (such as Santa Clarita or Pasadena...)

Los Angeles County is still no fingerprinting...

I try to do the same. Too bad we wont have that option any more.

[eddie885221]

Originally Posted by raskal311

I don't see how keeping these records would make any diff; its not like each rounds are individually numbered. People can also drive to NV to buy ammo, its cash and carry there.

actually.... they are turning out serialized ammunition now. its not in full force but its a law that was proposed years ago with an ultimatum set around 2012? i don't know the exact year but look it up, kinda sucks. i work at woods and water in tuscaloosa alabama and luckily we've had no serialized ammo through our doors but apparently it's just a matter of time

[Keason1*]

Originally Posted by NraFan

Its more than just fingerprinting. Read the new law. No more online sales. No more accesability to the ammunition. Now you have to REGISTER your ammo purchases. Just another way for the government to keep track on law abiding gun owners. Wait until someone near your town is killed with similar ammo that you purchased and they come to knock on your door to question you. Take the ammo you bought to test it. Maybe they want to check your guns. And so on.... It more than just fingerprinting. And if you are a gun owner who feels this law is ok then you are just helping the government take away your freedoms. You might as well turn your guns in and walk away from the sport if you arent going to fight for gun owners rights.

well said

[Keason1*]

Originally Posted by texasbowhunter

Thank GOD I live in Texas and don't have to deal with all this bullshit. This state respects the rights of gun owners. Just look at the Castle Doctrine.
http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/200...doctrine-laws/

Very good find! Everyone should read up on this for your state

[jandrews]

Originally Posted by chris4x4

Hmmm..This could be good news fo me. Perhaps more will wake up, and GTF out of there....Maybe move to AZ, creating more construction for me to manage.

Kind of my thought. Every time someone bitches about something bad happening in California, I always think "What, you need another reason to leave?"

No offense to anyone on here, but California and Florida are both shitholes. They're the state each coast uses to store its crazy people. If you live in either, get the hell out ASAP.

FWIW, North Carolina is trying to catch up with a new "what you can't throw away" law preventing us from discarding plastic bottles.

[40204ever]

Unjust laws should be ignored. My prayers are with those caught in californiastan.

[BigAndy21966]

This is not even "just the beginning", we are in the middle of it, the states and government has been eroding our freedoms for decades. Rich, fat dumb and happy Amerikanistan has been complacently watching TV mind control while the few who have been watching the governments power grabs have been labled as "Crackpot conspiracy theorists" Think Patriot Act. The propagandists told us "The majority of the people are willing to give up some of their freedoms to ensure the safety of our society." This is what the governments job is supposed to be in the first place "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

So much for that contract.

[BigAndy21966]

By the way, The Second Amendment should hold precedence over the states pathetic attempts at gun control. The Free People of Kaliforinistan should fight this tooth and nail. The bad guys aren't going to go and get fingerprinted, Can you say Black Market ammo smuggling? They will just get mules to trip out to some Free State to group buy ammo just like the rest of you sheeple. The law makes it "inconvenient" for criminals to get ammo while it sets up a registration database for the BATF to come and take your weapons.
Enjoy Kaliforistan! interesting how Swarzenegger is a Republcrat, he sold you out.

[NraFan]

BigAndy...

I agree with you on your stance on the Second Amendment. What happens here in Cali though is every time you try to enact your rights, they lock you up. We all try to do what we can, but the DA and Judges in this state are so anti gun we dont stand a chance. Like I have said before, and I agree with you, only the law abiding citizens are going to conform to these laws about ammo. Criminals will still continue to get ammo the way they always have, illegaly. All gun control laws only hurt the people willing to follow them. Criminals dont follow the law so it has no effect on them. All these laws do is turn regular folks into criminals when they try to express their rights. Eventually all gun owners will be criminals because guns will outright be illegal. So now Joe Gunowner who followed the law his whole life will be no better than the other law breakers because the government says so. I wish more than anything I could get out of this state. But with the way times are right now, we need to keep the jobs we have to get by. I have already told my wife that when I retire, I am giving up everything I have in this god awful state and moving home to Kentucky where the state actually respects the people. Sorry to rant, just fed up with a lot.

[BigAndy21966]

yeah me too, as for most of the silent majority, they sit there glassy eyed going "Uhhuh uh huh whatever you say Uncle Sam You know best" i just want to scream "WAKE UP". You guys ought to form an Open Carry movement in Cali. We have one here in PA, we get some push back but the LEOs figured out we are constutionaly entitled to open carring personal weapons providedwe do not have a criminal background and cant say squat about it

[Terrier]

I moved out of that blue state about 9 years ago and will never look back. Red state now and loving it.