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Old 12-22-2009, 06:24 PM   #21
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To make it a little clearer, I'm not saying using a dog for hunting of any sort is wrong. I'm saying that keeping dozens of dogs for tools is wrong. You didn't read my earlier post, did you? The OP said he treats his dogs well, and if you read my post I said I wasn't personally attacking him, so what's your issue? You gotta expect people to write their opinions on an open forum like this, aint' that what its for?
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I read this post and truly wonder at the negative information put out on hunters with dogs. While I don't hunt hogs, I have hunted deer in South Carolina as a youngster. I remember the the farmers releasing their dogs and about 30 of us waiting on the deer trails. Why did they do this? To cull the herd and keep their farms from being taken over by wildlife, and eat.
I will say that I hunt with dogs. I am an avid bird hunter (pheasant). 9 months out of the year my dogs have it easy. During the 3 months of hunting season they are my companions in the field. They enjoy this as much as I. Of course we each have our own jobs. As my employee's I see that they are taken to the vet regularly (free health care) and any emergencies get immediate attention. As part of their payment, room and board is provided. Healthy food, and a warm bed are provided. They are allowed to lounge on the furniture, sleep in the bed, bathed regularly, and even have a retirement plan. During the entire year we have even provided them with an exercise plan to maintain their health and well being.
To those of you who may judge a person who uses an animal to assist in the hunt, I feel sorry that you don't seem to understand the relationship between the hunter and his companions.
Go check the animal shelters today and see all the different animals left there by all those others you seem to think would never do anything to hurt that pet. Take one home while your there and provide it with a home, food, exercise, love and companionship. Good luck. K
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To make it a little clearer, I'm not saying using a dog for hunting of any sort is wrong. I'm saying that keeping dozens of dogs for tools is wrong. You didn't read my earlier post, did you? The OP said he treats his dogs well, and if you read my post I said I wasn't personally attacking him, so what's your issue? You gotta expect people to write their opinions on an open forum like this, aint' that what its for?
OP wasn't asking for opinions on animal abuse. He asked if you hunt with hounds. Most forums would thrash a person for derailing a positive thread in a negative way like that. Here at TW we normally don't do that. I'm asking to get this back on topic of hounds and hunting dogs.

to the OP-my apoligies for any misdirection I've caused in your thread. I love to follow the dogs and watch them work. Birdhunter by heart, but can easily follow and enjoy any dog that loves to hunt.

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Wow,
I read this post and truly wonder at the negative information put out on hunters with dogs. While I don't hunt hogs, I have hunted deer in South Carolina as a youngster. I remember the the farmers releasing their dogs and about 30 of us waiting on the deer trails. Why did they do this? To cull the herd and keep their farms from being taken over by wildlife, and eat.
I will say that I hunt with dogs. I am an avid bird hunter (pheasant). 9 months out of the year my dogs have it easy. During the 3 months of hunting season they are my companions in the field. They enjoy this as much as I. Of course we each have our own jobs. As my employee's I see that they are taken to the vet regularly (free health care) and any emergencies get immediate attention. As part of their payment, room and board is provided. Healthy food, and a warm bed are provided. They are allowed to lounge on the furniture, sleep in the bed, bathed regularly, and even have a retirement plan. During the entire year we have even provided them with an exercise plan to maintain their health and well being.
To those of you who may judge a person who uses an animal to assist in the hunt, I feel sorry that you don't seem to understand the relationship between the hunter and his companions.
Go check the animal shelters today and see all the different animals left there by all those others you seem to think would never do anything to hurt that pet. Take one home while your there and provide it with a home, food, exercise, love and companionship. Good luck. K
good post tuck. I always considered my 4 legged friend as the hunter, and me as his companion.
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good post tuck. I always considered my 4 legged friend as the hunter, and me as his companion.
Your right Ben,
I suppose I also must apologize for over reaction to the post. I have taken in so many pets over the years. Seems about 50% were strays and all loved me as much as I loved them.
I found out one thing over the years. Had I never had any pet I would have missed out on so many friendships. While it's painful when they go, the pain would be even worse if I had never know them to start. Ken
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^^ Man I want to go pheasant hunting one day, I hope when I get some time to take a trip out to South Dakota. Im not sure if my lab would quite know what to do if hunting didn't involve swimming though!
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Yeah, unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to go to South Dakota myself. Wife has family there and she keeps telling me to go. They like to do big family hunts where you have blockers and walkers pushing a field. It sure is fun. I have been a state volunteer for the Western Washington Pheasant program on the west side of the mountains for over 20 years now. We release about 6000 birds a year on the Ft. Lewis military reservation for the hunters. Great fun for all. K
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IMO anyone that has a negative opinon of hunting with dogs does not truly understand the companionship that exist. The folks i hunt with would absolutly do anything for there dogs. Over the years i have been stabbed in the back and lied to by what i thought were my friends. My dog has never done this which leads me to say he is truly my best friend.
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tuckr2, Is that a shock collar or gps on the dog on the right? Or neither?
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i want to go hog hunting with some pits. the pits hold the hog then you have to run in and stab the hog or cut its throat.

theres a few groups than take people hunting down here

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i wouldnt mind getting a hog dog....i love the american pit bull terrier, but for hogging i would use something with a little bit more mass, and i dont think pit bulls are instinctually pack hunters (however, their intelligence and drive makes them an extremely versatile breed...so i suppose anything is possible)
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I love going coon hunting and bear hunting with dogs. There's just that something about it that gets your adrenaline going. That's just my opinion and I know some people don't feel this way.
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how does bear hunting go with a dog?
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tuckr2, Is that a shock collar or gps on the dog on the right? Or neither?

Neither of the above. Springers typically hunt close so gps wouldn't be necessary. Bench spaniels don't typically need shock collars, not that I didn't wish I had one on occasion (the wife needs some serious training). Bench spaniels are usually gentle and use of a collar might break one if you weren't careful. I have had field springers too and they are a different breed. A shock collar could be considered a training tool to be used only in limited use to to discourage bad behaviors.
I have learned to accept my dogs misgivings as a result of my poor training. Good thing they don't have a collar for me when I miss. K
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Hunting with dogs is not hunting. You tree an animal and shoot it. What is the "hunt" in that? I am a predator, turkey, upland game, and soon to be deer hunter and that takes skill, luck, and hunter's knowledge.
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Hunting with dogs is not hunting. You tree an animal and shoot it. What is the "hunt" in that? I am a predator, turkey, upland game, and soon to be deer hunter and that takes skill, luck, and hunter's knowledge.
Upland hunting for pheasant or any bird that typically stays on the ground could be difficult for anyone without a dog. Oh you might get the occasional one, especially in states where the bird is plentiful. But again, without the dogs nose quite frequently you would not bring the bird back once down in cover or wounded. Pheasants are hearty and don't give up once hit.
Hunters knowledge will only take you so far with birds. No matter your feelings on the issue those of us who hunt some type of game with a sporting dog do so because we feel this is the best, most efficient method. Think of a dog as a fish-finder. You use the finder to locate the fish. Then with you skill, knowledge, and a bit of luck, you take the fish to hook and land it.
I prefer this method over depending on a huge amount of luck to bring the bird back to hand. Good luck on your hunting. K
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I started small game hunting last year. I loved walking around not having to be quite. I'm so skinny that I freeze after about 30 minutes of sitting in the same spot. small game hunting allows for everyone to talk and have a good time. After I saw how much those dogs loved being out there tracking rabbits I had to have one. I have a year old beagle that I'm currently training for next season. I agree with all of hoosiertaco's previous posts.
My dog is my pet first. Taking him out hunting is no different than my wanting to go hunting. He enjoys it far more than I do.
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I started small game hunting last year. I loved walking around not having to be quite. I'm so skinny that I freeze after about 30 minutes of sitting in the same spot. small game hunting allows for everyone to talk and have a good time. After I saw how much those dogs loved being out there tracking rabbits I had to have one. I have a year old beagle that I'm currently training for next season. I agree with all of hoosiertaco's previous posts.
My dog is my pet first. Taking him out hunting is no different than my wanting to go hunting. He enjoys it far more than I do.

Couldn't agree more with you. My dog is my pet first. When they reach an age where they appear to be in discomfort I usually have another started to take over the reigns. Still, as long as they enjoy the hunt I bring them with.
Also, the friends I have made through hunting are genuine and last long after the hunt is over.
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That says it all right there Matt!!!
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