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vtrguy 04-28-2013 01:52 PM

Poll: Do you carry in your truck?
 
As the title suggests, been playing around with a few ideas in my head to see how many of y'all carry in your trucks.

If so, what do you store it in and where are you storing it?

If not, why not?

Feel free to add what state you're in for legality sake :p

Just getting a gauge for interest here because my buddy owns a ranger and is a gun enthusiast (I just go shoot with him occasionally).

vtrguy 04-28-2013 01:56 PM

And just for information sake:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf

slodc4 04-28-2013 01:58 PM

18" barrel Mossberg 500 under the rear seats and a xdm 9mm in the front

TnRedNeck721 04-28-2013 02:03 PM

Once I get my HCP I will.

2xR 04-28-2013 02:50 PM

Yep. Butler Creek set up for my Glock 31

Operator313 04-28-2013 03:04 PM

Just made a thread for this ! :D

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...rity-mods.html

TacoBurrito07 04-28-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Operator313 (Post 6810860)

I was just going to say that I saw a thread about this!

Rich91710 04-28-2013 03:20 PM

California is a tough nut for defensive purposes since you can't transport anything loaded. Handguns need to be in a secure locked container.
Rifles and shotguns can be tossed behind or under the seat.
Loaded mags are legal as long as they are not inserted into the gun.

When I carry, I use a small Gunvaut with the cable wrapped around the seat leg.
It's big enough for the G26 and a mag... extra mags in the glove box.

wileyC 04-28-2013 04:58 PM

...the best way to carry is on your person... avoid having to go into a CPZ if at all possible, ...this may mean being more "particular" about where you go to shop, do business, etc... if i absolutely must park and go into a CPZ, i remove the mag from the gun, stash the gun in a console, etc. (gun stays in holster for safety, and round stays chambered) - note in OH the gun is considered loaded but CHL holders can place the gun anywhere in the vehicle - i take all loaded mags w/ me into the CPZ...

Rich91710 04-28-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wileyC (Post 6811390)
...the best way to carry is on your person... avoid having to go into a CPZ if at all possible

Not an option without a CCW/CHL in most states.

But most states are shall-issue.

bubba353z 04-28-2013 05:01 PM

My company won't allow gun storage on company property (even with a CCW) so I can't carry the majority of the time - only on weekends.

Florida law prevents employers from restricting storage - I'm hoping Ohio follows suit.

Rich91710 04-28-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba353z (Post 6811403)
My company won't allow gun storage on company property (even with a CCW) so I can't carry the majority of the time - only on weekends.

So push the definition and get it straightened out in court.

You would be storing the gun on your private property... in your vehicle.
Your vehicle happens to be temporarily located on company property on a regular basis.

wileyC 04-28-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba353z (Post 6811403)
My company won't allow gun storage on company property (even with a CCW) so I can't carry the majority of the time - only on weekends.

Florida law prevents employers from restricting storage - I'm hoping Ohio follows suit.

...you're not alone in that thinking...

...assuming your employer's lot is not a statutory CPZ, ...then the company policy is just that, ...a company policy... not criminal trespass but perhaps a risk to your employment there should the "bosses" find out...

...also, the "parking lot" legislation that has passed in many states recently, TN, IN, etc. seems to cause some consternation between "private property rights", ...basically that of a "landowner" vs. that of the employee, or "car owner"...

...again, assuming you're employer's lot is not a statutory CPZ, ...then it comes down to managing your risk... do you risk a problem w/ the employer should they "find out" it's in your car, ...or do you "risk" your safety to/from work and any errands along the way?...

TnRedNeck721 04-28-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wileyC (Post 6812573)
...you're not alone in that thinking...

...assuming your employer's lot is not a statutory CPZ, ...then the company policy is just that, ...a company policy... not criminal trespass but perhaps a risk to your employment there should the "bosses" find out...

...also, the "parking lot" legislation that has passed in many states recently, TN, IN, etc. seems to cause some consternation between "private property rights", ...basically that of a "landowner" vs. that of the employee, or "car owner"...

...again, assuming you're employer's lot is not a statutory CPZ, ...then it comes down to managing your risk... do you risk a problem w/ the employer should they "find out" it's in your car, ...or do you "risk" your safety to/from work and any errands along the way?...

yeah TN just passed one saying that the gun can stay in your car/truck even if employer does not allow them.

also they passed a law that if you have a HCP, you can have the gun in your car/truck on school grounds, but from what i understand it can not leave the car or truck at all. Which is great if you carry and need to pick up your kid or drop them off at school. before you could not even have it in the truck on school grounds.

ToyComa92 04-28-2013 08:49 PM

In Colorado you can legally open carry so if you have the gun within sight then its perfectly legal, But the law has alot of ins and outs that can screw you over if youre not aware of them.

CCW on the other hand isnt much of a problem carrying except in my experience you really want to make sure you remember where it is at ALL times. Dont put it somewhere that cant be reached without stretching around

Keep the weapon within hands reach at all times and you should be fine, I only say that because if you get pulled over and you tell the officer you have a weapon and you go reaching it for it way in the back or under the seat or something and the cop is going to be on EDGE sometimes its better to just let the police officer get the weapon.

TnRedNeck721 04-28-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyComa92 (Post 6812614)
In Colorado you can legally open carry so if you have the gun within sight then its perfectly legal, But the law has alot of ins and outs that can screw you over if youre not aware of them.

CCW on the other hand isnt much of a problem carrying except in my experience you really want to make sure you remember where it is at ALL times. Dont put it somewhere that cant be reached without stretching around

Keep the weapon within hands reach at all times and you should be fine, I only say that because if you get pulled over and you tell the officer you have a weapon and you go reaching it for it way in the back or under the seat or something and the cop is going to be on EDGE sometimes its better to just let the police officer get the weapon.

Yeah you can open carry in TN. Thats why itís called a HCP here and not CCW or CCP. I donít think there is many ins and outs though.

ToyComa92 04-28-2013 08:58 PM

For some reason Open Carry here seems like a lot of trouble, You have to have certain areas of the handgun visible at all times like i know the trigger and a certain amount of the barrel HAS to be visible. Its weird, Basically if you have a handgun in a holster and its fully covered its considered Concealed. You cant have it in certain places i know like how you were talking about schools and government buildings.

wileyC 04-28-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TnRedNeck721 (Post 6812593)
yeah TN just passed one saying that the gun can stay in your car/truck even if employer does not allow them.

also they passed a law that if you have a HCP, you can have the gun in your car/truck on school grounds, but from what i understand it can not leave the car or truck at all. Which is great if you carry and need to pick up your kid or drop them off at school. before you could not even have it in the truck on school grounds.

yep, ...was that the bill that was rejected by the TN court?... i could be getting things mixed up, but thought that it was either that or restaurant carry that ran into problems there?...

Rich91710 04-28-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyComa92 (Post 6812614)
In Colorado you can legally open carry so if you have the gun within sight then its perfectly legal, But the law has alot of ins and outs that can screw you over if youre not aware of them.

The main "gotcha" is the Federal GFSZ law... and I can see there may be efforts to strengthen it in the wake of Newtown.

Whether a state allows LOC/UOC or not, federal law requires firearms to be unloaded in a locked container or locked mount (gun rack) when within 1000ft of a K12 school.
There is an exemption for those who possess a CCW/CHL/CWP... but the exemption ONLY applies in the state of issuance.
Having a Florida non-resident CCW permits one to carry concealed in some 20+ states, but it only provides an exemption to the Federal GFSZ law in Florida.
Likewise, Arizona, Vermont, and Alaska constitutional carry laws do not provide the exemption without the CHL.

Thankfully, it is a federal law, and I've never heard of it being enforced by local authorities other than incident to arrest on other charges. Even cases where people have been arrested under California 626.9 (California's own GFSZ law), they have not been charged under the Federal statutes.


As for carrying on school property, it depends on the state. California may be tough to obtain a CCW in many counties, but it does provide an exemption and allows loaded concealed carry pretty much anywhere except a bar or courthouse.
BUT... when the gun is not on the person, the same laws that apply to a non-permitted person apply to the permitted person. If he leaves his handgun in his car, it must be in a secure locking container and unloaded.

teamamerica 04-28-2013 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=vtrguy;6810578]As the title suggests, been playing around with a few ideas in my head to see how many of y'all carry in your trucks.

If so, what do you store it in and where are you storing it?
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