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Coffee???

Discussion in 'Health' started by sammy87, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. Oct 23, 2012 at 8:46 AM
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    For those nutritional nuts out there....I have a debate with my wife. We both are trying to lost weight and she drinks a ton of coffee. I told her she should try to ween herself off it and it would help her more. We both have read conflicting things on coffee.
     
  2. Oct 23, 2012 at 8:50 AM
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    Does she put in cream and sugar?
     
  3. Oct 23, 2012 at 8:51 AM
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    no just black
     
  4. Oct 23, 2012 at 8:53 AM
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    She should be fine then. I don't think there is much or any calories in coffee. Coffee dehydrates you, but if you have ample amounts of water she should be ok.
     
  5. Oct 23, 2012 at 9:00 AM
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    This is correct. Black coffee has next to nothing in calories, hell the amphetaimine (cafine) will increaseheart rate, amongst other things which will lead to more burned calories.

    I am not to sure about the whole dehydration thing though. I have heard mixed things on this.
     
  6. Oct 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM
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    Here is an interesting perspective that includes coffee which happens to be very acidic.
    From www.cancertruth.net
    The pH Scale


    Remember back in high school chemistry when you learned about our acid/alkaline balance, also referred to as the body’s pH (“potential Hydrogen” or “powers of Hydrogen”)? Our pH is measured on a scale from 0 to 14, with around 7.35 being neutral (normal). The pH numbers below 7.35 are acidic (with 0 being the most acidic) and the numbers above 7.35 are alkaline (with 14 being the most alkaline).
    Hydrogen is both a proton and an electron. If the electron is stripped off, then the resulting positive ion is a proton. Without going into all the details about protons (“+” charge) and electrons (“-” charge), it’s important to note that alkaline substances (also called “bases”) are proton “acceptors” while acids are proton “donors.” What does that mean to someone who isn’t a doctor? Let me simplify it for you. Since bases have a higher pH, they have a greater potential to absorb hydrogen ions and vice versa for acids.
    In chemistry, we know that water (H2O) decomposes into hydrogen ions (H+) and hydroxyl ions (OH-). When a solution contains more hydrogen ions than hydroxyl ions, then it is said to be acid. When it contains more hydroxyl ions than hydrogen ions, then it is said to be alkaline. As you may have guessed, a pH of 7.35 is neutral because it contains equal amounts of hydrogen ions and hydroxyl ions.
    [​IMG]Over 70% of our bodies are water. When cells create energy via aerobic respiration, they burn oxygen and glucose. I don’t want to get overly scientific here, but the fact is that in order to create energy, the body also requires massive amounts of hydrogen. As a matter of fact, each day your body uses about ½ pound of pure hydrogen. Even our DNA is held together by hydrogen bonds. And since the pH of bases is higher, they have a greater potential to absorb hydrogen, which results in more oxygen delivered to the cells.
    The hydrogen ion concentration varies over 14 powers of 10, thus a change of one pH unit changes the hydrogen ion concentration by a factor of 10. The pH scale is a common logarithmic scale. For those of you who never liked math, what this means is that a substance which has a pH of 5.2 is 10 times more acidic than a substance with a pH of 6.2, while it is 100 (10 squared) times more acidic than a substance with a pH of 7.2, and it is 1,000 (10 cubed) times more acidic than a substance with a pH of 8.2, etc…
    Our blood must always maintain a pH of approximately 7.35 so that it can continue to transport oxygen. Thus, God has made our bodies resilient with the ability to self-correct in the event of an imbalanced pH level through a mechanism called the buffer system. In chemistry, a buffer is a substance which neutralizes acids, thus keeping the pH of a solution relatively constant despite the addition of considerable amounts of acids or bases. However, due to our poor diet of junk foods, fast foods, processed foods, and sodas, most of us are putting our bodies through “the ringer” in order to maintain the proper pH in our blood. Although our bodies typically maintain alkaline reserves which are utilized to buffer acids in these types of situations, it is safe to say that many of us have depleted our reserves.
    When our buffering system reaches overload and we are depleted of reserves, the excess acids are dumped into the tissues. As more and more acid is accumulated, our tissues begin to deteriorate. The acid wastes begin to oxidize (“rust”) the veins and arteries and begin to destroy cell walls and even entire organs. Having an acidic pH is like driving your car with the “check engine” light on. It’s a sign that something is wrong with the engine; and if we don’t get it fixed, then eventually the car will break down.
    According to Keiichi Morishita in his book, Hidden Truth of Cancer, as blood starts to become acidic, the body deposits acidic substances into cells to get them out of the blood. This allows the blood to remain slightly alkaline. However, it causes the cells to become acidic and toxic. Over time, many of these cells increase in acidity and some die. However, some of these acidified cells adapt to the new environment. In other words, instead of dying (as normal cells do in an acidic environment) some cells survive by becoming abnormal cells. These abnormal cells are called “malignant” cells, and they do not correspond with brain function or with our own DNA memory code. Therefore, malignant cells grow indefinitely and without order. This is cancer.
    Putting too much acid in your body is like putting poison in your fish tank. Several years ago, we purchased a fish tank and a couple of goldfish for our children. After killing both goldfish, we quickly learned that the key factor in keeping fish alive is the condition of the water. If their water isn’t just right, then they quickly die. We also learned that you can kill a fish rather quickly if you feed it the wrong foods! Now, compare this to the condition of our internal “fish tank.” Many of us are filling our fish tanks with chemicals, toxins, and the wrong foods which lower our pH balance, and an acidic pH results in oxygen deprivation at the cellular level.
    So, what other things can we do to keep our tissue pH in the proper range? The easiest thing is to eat mostly alkaline foods. The general rule of thumb is to eat 20% acid foods and 80% alkaline foods. Fresh fruit juice also supplies your body with a plethora of alkaline substances. You can also take supplements, such as potassium, cesium, magnesium, calcium, and rubidium, which are all highly alkaline.
    Some excellent alkaline-forming foods are as follows: most raw vegetables and fruits, figs, lima beans, olive oil, honey, molasses, apple cider vinegar, miso, tempeh, raw milk, raw cheese, stevia, green tea, most herbs, sprouted grains, sprouts, wheatgrass, and barley grass. Foods such as yogurt, kefir, and butter are basically neutral. Several acid-forming foods are as follows: sodas, coffee, alcohol, chocolate, tobacco, aspartame, meats, oysters, fish, eggs, chicken, pasteurized milk, processed grains, sugar, peanut butter, beans, and pastas.
     
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    Not the thread i thought it would be but still very interesting...
    :lalala:coming from an avid coffee drinker.
     
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    Well the whole alkaline ph for optimal health is fine and all, but in terms of weight loss. i think coffee is fine as long as your adding bad stuff to it.

    I think as far as the ph scale goes, just note bad foods are general low in ph where good foods are more basic which apparently is better for you. SO just eat good foods in the first place and then you dont have to worry. haha
     
  9. Oct 23, 2012 at 10:12 AM
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    All things in moderation. Including moderation.;)
     
  10. Oct 23, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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    ^^^^this is everything when it comes to healthy lifestyles. every thing should be in moderation and too much of even a good thing can be bad. haha perfect.
     
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    Let her have her coffee....

    Dieting is hard and you can't cut yourself off from everything. If coffee makes her happy.....it'll make it easier for her to cut out other things.

    Besides.... It's HER diet - not yours. You keep to your own diet!!!
     
  12. Oct 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM
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    Thanks for the info....She eats pretty well most of the time and can not eat dairy so that helps on calories. But she is just now starting a workout routine. We both have read conflicting thigns on coffee. I could do without it, I just like the smell. Anyway, Im trying to get a lil more cut and drop about 7 lbs, shes just trying to get back into it after a couple yrs off during school.

    Thanks again!
     

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