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Old 07-10-2012, 09:44 PM   #41
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Ok that's not fair in any way shape at all and one of the dumbest things i have heard. He was tazed for 20 second straight! 20 SECONDS! A normal tazer pull is 5 seconds, so the officer pulled it, held it and pulled it again. He squealed like a bitch because every muscle in his body seized and convulsed for 20 seconds. You would make the same squealing noises if that happened to you. Anyone would.
were you there while he got tazed for 20 seconds straight? it's all speculative when it's on the internet

same goes for my opinion on the matter
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were you there while he got tazed for 20 seconds straight? it's all speculative when it's on the internet

same goes for my opinion on the matter
the duration of the tazing was from the court case
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however is it now not worth abiding by your rights to instead not inconvenience a border patrol officer. the dude in the video is not responsible for proving he is a citizen so the stop should have ended when he refused the officers request and the officer was content there was nothing obviously illegal going on in the guys car.
HA! HA! HAHAHAHA! That is one of the most depressing and saddening things i have heard in a long time. When people begin to think that way, that it is easier to give up their rights, then i'm sorry but we have lost all hope. I'm sorry you would rather give up your right to not in convince an officer, and that you are that content to just be another sheep. As soon as you give up an inch of rights they will take a mile.

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Old 07-10-2012, 09:47 PM   #44
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all the guy had to do was say "yes i'm a US citizen." and he'd have rolled through all those checkpoints, i've been through them before... its pretty simple.
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HA! HA! HAHAHAHA! That is one of the most depressing and saddening things i have heard in a long time. When people begin to think that way, that it is easier to give up their rights, then i'm sorry but we have lost all hope. I'm sorry you would rather give up your right to not in convince an officer, and that you are that content to just be another sheep. As soon as you give up an inch of rights they will take a mile.


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calm down bud youre going to get everybody else riled up too
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agreed that the stops are stupid. Glad we don't have them here other than the DWI ones.


I could care less about them. I went through the checkpoint on Interstate 8 a few miles east of Pine Valley, CA probably close to 15 times. They don't bother me at all. I don't feel any of my "rights" are being violated. I answer their question, tell them to have a nice day and go about my business. Big fucking deal right?!
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:49 PM   #48
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:51 PM   #49
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the duration of the tazing was from the court case
fair enough. i stand corrected

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HA! HA! HAHAHAHA! That is one of the most depressing and saddening things i have heard in a long time. When people begin to think that way, that it is easier to give up their rights, then i'm sorry but we have lost all hope. I'm sorry you would rather give up your right to not in convince an officer, and that you are that content to just be another sheep. As soon as you give up an inch of rights they will take a mile.


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like i said before... he was looking for trouble, and he found it... mission accomplished on his part. border patrol officers too.

BTW, you're reading all of this... not hearing it
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:51 PM   #50
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all the guy had to do was say "yes i'm a US citizen." and he'd have rolled through all those checkpoints, i've been through them before... its pretty simple.
To make it clear, i'm not saying this WOULDN'T have been an easier option. Yes, it would be SO much simpler to just say yes i am a citizen. But he is trying to prove a point that he has to get through so much harassment to get to his rights. It's a small victory for him, and he gets to put it online to show how much of a hassle it can be.
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calm down bud youre going to get everybody else riled up too
eh, it happens.

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the duration of the tazing was from the court case
Thank you. I am not just spouting bull shit here and making all of this up. I'm trying to be as fair and factual as possible.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:54 PM   #52
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well he was arrested on one of these tirades and when his case went to trial he was acquitted of all charges
My point exactly. Be cooropitave, even if in the wrong, and thing's will be a whole lot better.
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THANK YOU!

I agree the check points are completely retarded, but don't give the cops a hard time about it! I've been saying that the entire time in this thread.
I know buddy.
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So are you saying what they did was right? And that they did their job to serve and protect the people to the best of their abilities?
Not what the LEO's did was right but what the person in the car did was wrong. If he would have complied then he could have avoided being tazed, he car being ruined, day being ruined, saved the officers the trouble of pulling him out and ruining his car, etc. If he had just done like he was told and let the judicial process take care of it everything would have been much better.
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Didn't even look at it. There is a reason wikipedia is not a credible source any academic work.
Really? University of South Carolina, which has been recognized as being one of the best public schools in the nation and that I attend, considers it acceptable sourcing as long as it's sources are documented correctly.
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HA! HA! HAHAHAHA! That is one of the most depressing and saddening things i have heard in a long time. When people begin to think that way, that it is easier to give up their rights, then i'm sorry but we have lost all hope. I'm sorry you would rather give up your right to not in convince an officer, and that you are that content to just be another sheep. As soon as you give up an inch of rights they will take a mile.


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Not a sheep just a law abiding citizen. Again there are times and places for arguing the laws side of the road looking down the business end of a tazer isn't the time nor place. Also that Ben Franklin quote is one my favorites.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:54 PM   #53
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To make it clear, i'm not saying this WOULDN'T have been an easier option. Yes, it would be SO much simpler to just say yes i am a citizen. But he is trying to prove a point that he has to get through so much harassment to get to his rights. It's a small victory for him, and he gets to put it online to show how much of a hassle it can be.
he proved his point to the wrong people. He needs to do this in a professional manner to get any respect out of me.
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Not a sheep just a law abiding citizen. Again there are times and places for arguing the laws side of the road looking down the business end of a tazer isn't the time nor place.
true shit, but he might make out with a small victory since he is now suing the state
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Also, checkpoints are completely legal. Any of your arguments are invalid.



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true shit, but he might make out with a small victory since he is now suing the state
Doesn't surprise me.
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lol suing the state because the cops did their jobs? Good luck with that one dude.
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what did he win in his victory, he got tased...
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