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Old 12-20-2013, 01:52 PM   #21
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en·trap (n-trp)
tr.v. en·trapped, en·trap·ping, en·traps
1. To catch in or as if in a trap.
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a. To lure into danger, difficulty, or a compromising situation. See Synonyms at catch.
b. To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act.
[French entraper, from Old French : en-, in; see en-1 + trape, trap (of Germanic origin).]


Where and how are they doing the above ?.
When I think Entrapment I think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZaFIDxT1J4
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Maybe he had to 10-100, or 10-200.
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Maybe he had to 10-100, or 10-200.
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:54 PM   #24
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Most pd's have a policy in place that you have to run a code to drive over the speed limit though.
You know this because you've read most PD's policy manuals?

However in CO, we can exceed the posted speed limit without lights or sirens in an attempt to catch up to or verify an actual or suspected violator or suspect in a crime....BY STATUTE.
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I love how people are just throwing this word entrapment around.

Consider entrapment in regards to something like a cop leads you on to believe that he isn't a cop and asks you to do something illegal and then arrests you for it.

These people on this said highway know he's a cop, I mean, he's in a marked unit! Its not entrapment at all, if you have an issue with it, call him in to the supervisor, and slow down.

If you see a cop fly by and go off the off ramp and you go back to speeding because you think "the coast is clear", you have absolutely no respect for the laws or for law enforcement and you deserve what ever ticket you got.
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If I drive 60 in a 75, waiting for people to pass me so I can see registration, plates, seat belt's etc, is that entrapment, trying to get people to pass me?
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If I drive 60 in a 75, waiting for people to pass me so I can see registration, plates, seat belt's etc, is that entrapment, trying to get people to pass me?
Maybe, but you are obstructing traffic......
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:16 PM   #28
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Maybe, but you are obstructing traffic......
No, actually I'm not. That's what the passing lane is for. Yes? Especially on a two-three lane highway. I mean hell, the minimum speed in the left lane on a portion of said highway is 55 mph. Obstructing?
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:34 PM   #29
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No, actually I'm not. That's what the passing lane is for. Yes? Especially on a two-three lane highway. I mean hell, the minimum speed in the left lane on a portion of said highway is 55 mph. Obstructing?
Was told by a state trooper that any time a vehicle isn't keeping up with the flow of traffic it's obstructing traffic by forcing people to pass you.
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Was told by a state trooper that any time a vehicle isn't keeping up with the flow of traffic it's obstructing traffic by forcing people to pass you.
Uh no...not that I'm aware of...the "flow of traffic" can be thrown around...lets say I was doing 73 in a 65 b/c that's the "flow
Of traffic"....I get laser read at said speed and am stopped for that moving violation...I still broke the speed limit, right? There was / is no sign posted "vehicles going with the flow of traffic exempt"


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Old 12-20-2013, 09:39 PM   #31
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Was told by a state trooper that any time a vehicle isn't keeping up with the flow of traffic it's obstructing traffic by forcing people to pass you.
Lol on a 3 lane highway....with signs posted, slower traffic keep right...its not forcing people to pass.

However if it was a two lane road, yes, you are right.
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Lol on a 3 lane highway....with signs posted, slower traffic keep right...its not forcing people to pass.

However if it was a two lane road, yes, you are right.
Idk, I don't see why people speed to begin with. And usually it's the same people that text, and drink n drive too
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:55 PM   #33
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Idk, I don't see why people speed to begin with. And usually it's the same people that text, and drink n drive too
Saying that usually the speeders are the same ones that text and drive and drink and drive is kinda ridiculous....everyone that drives a car has sped and has the tendency and ability to speed at any given time. Its not a certain group or groups of drivers that usually speed.
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Cops are sneaky we were hoping nobody would figure this little speed trap out...dag nabbit


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Old 12-20-2013, 10:28 PM   #35
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I've seen them do it in KY. The absolute most important thing to remember is that rules are for YOU and NOT for them.



Ever think that deputy is responding to a call, that's not high enough on the emergency list to run code, yet he/she still need to get there quickly??

If it was you who had called in because you needed help, wouldn't you want LEO to arrive quickly?
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If you see a cop fly by and go off the off ramp and you go back to speeding because you think "the coast is clear", you have absolutely no respect for the laws or for law enforcement and you deserve what ever ticket you got.
^^This, plain and simple.
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Saying that usually the speeders are the same ones that text and drive and drink and drive is kinda ridiculous....everyone that drives a car has sped and has the tendency and ability to speed at any given time. Its not a certain group or groups of drivers that usually speed.
No sir I've never sped.
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You know this because you've read most PD's policy manuals?

However in CO, we can exceed the posted speed limit without lights or sirens in an attempt to catch up to or verify an actual or suspected violator or suspect in a crime....BY STATUTE.
Ok, well that's not the case in nc or Florida .
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Ok, well that's not the case in nc or Florida .
Wrong. Says NOTHING about using lights and sirens...
If there is a bolo out for a stolen white civic, I don't run up on every white civic with my lights and sirens and run their tag and then turn them off when it's not the car...


When I'm pacing a car that is speeding, I don't do it with my lights and sirens on.


Reference F.S. 316.072.(5)(a)1.
316.072 Obedience to and effect of traffic laws.—


(1) PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER REFERRING TO VEHICLES UPON THE HIGHWAYS.—The provisions of this chapter shall apply to the operation of vehicles and bicycles and the movement of pedestrians upon all state-maintained highways, county-maintained highways, and municipal streets and alleys and wherever vehicles have the right to travel.
(2) REQUIRED OBEDIENCE TO TRAFFIC LAWS.—It is unlawful for any person to do any act forbidden, or to fail to perform any act required, in this chapter. It is unlawful for the owner, or any other person employing or otherwise directing the driver of any vehicle, to require or knowingly permit the operation of such vehicle upon a highway in any manner contrary to law. A violation of this subsection is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.
(3) OBEDIENCE TO POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS.—It is unlawful and a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, for any person willfully to fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order or direction of any law enforcement officer, traffic crash investigation officer as described in s. 316.640, traffic infraction enforcement officer as described in s. 316.640, or member of the fire department at the scene of a fire, rescue operation, or other emergency. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subsection, certified emergency medical technicians or paramedics may respond to the scene of emergencies and may provide emergency medical treatment on the scene and provide transport of patients in the performance of their duties for an emergency medical services provider licensed under chapter 401 and in accordance with any local emergency medical response protocols.
(4) PUBLIC OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES TO OBEY CHAPTER; EXCEPTIONS.—(a) The provisions of this chapter applicable to the drivers of vehicles upon the highways shall apply to the drivers of all vehicles owned or operated by the United States, this state, or any county, city, town, district, or any other political subdivision of the state, subject to such specific exceptions as are set forth in this chapter.
(b) Unless specifically made applicable, the provisions of this chapter, except those contained in ss. 316.192, 316.1925, and 316.193, shall not apply to persons, teams, or motor vehicles and other equipment while actually engaged in work upon the surface of a highway, but shall apply to such persons and vehicles when traveling to or from such work.

(5) AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLES.—(a)1. The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call, when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law, or when responding to a fire alarm, but not upon returning from a fire;
2. A medical staff physician or technician of a medical facility licensed by the state when responding to an emergency in the line of duty in his or her privately owned vehicle, using red lights as authorized in s. 316.2398; or
3. The driver of an authorized law enforcement vehicle, when conducting a nonemergency escort, to warn the public of an approaching motorcade;
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Just maybe, they are running a speed test against the "radar" unit.
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