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Old 03-17-2013, 01:58 PM   #21
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Mine does that as well. Kind of annoying, but I've learned to live with it!
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Perfect example of how aftermarket kits have problems regardless of brand.
I'm so sick of seeing everyone say that TRS has the best quality kits an all this BS. They're just overpriced kits IMO
It's not an issue of quality, it's an issue of TRS offering a proper retrofit, and TRS is one of the few companies that does.

Most of the kits out there, including everything on eBay, are H4 plug-in replacements that are dangerous to other drivers. That's where the ragging on other vendors comes from. FWIW, TRS also sells the plug-in systems, and I really wish they wouldn't, but they are in business to make money, and there's a market for it, and I'm not their CEO, so they will continue to sell them, and I'll continue to drive with a rag hanging over my mirror.

If other companies offer proper retrofits, more power to them.
IMHO, all of the electronics are Chinese base quality production unless you get a retro that uses an OEM ballast.
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It's not an issue of quality, it's an issue of TRS offering a proper retrofit, and TRS is one of the few companies that does.

Most of the kits out there, including everything on eBay, are H4 plug-in replacements that are dangerous to other drivers. That's where the ragging on other vendors comes from. FWIW, TRS also sells the plug-in systems, and I really wish they wouldn't, but they are in business to make money, and there's a market for it, and I'm not their CEO, so they will continue to sell them, and I'll continue to drive with a rag hanging over my mirror.

If other companies offer proper retrofits, more power to them.
IMHO, all of the electronics are Chinese base quality production unless you get a retro that uses an OEM ballast.
This. It's what I concluded aswell and if all the wiring is spot on then the issues point to the ballast. OEM kits for some vehicles range up into thousands of dollars. Were talking about a 300 dollar kit here. Point is, it didn't come standard with the truck, it's aftermarket and we all know that aftermarket is never perfect.
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On this "candle flame" issue, I'm thinking it's the Morimoto burner.
I'm running the upgraded Philips 4300k burner, but the same ballast as everyone else.
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Could be worth a shot to see if it fixes the problem, even if it doesn't those are a little brighter aren't they?
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:59 PM   #26
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Definitely get in touch with TRS. Have them send you new bulb's and ballasts, should be covered under their 4 year warranty.

I have a Morimoto mini H1 setup with their XB35 bulbs and 3Five ballasts - zero problems.

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Could be worth a shot to see if it fixes the problem, even if it doesn't those are a little brighter aren't they?
Ya, when I get some things ironed out and things get settled.

Right now I've got too many damned projects going and none are getting done. It took me 3 months to get to installing the retros (the new Depo housings sat in the garage COMPLETED that long), I never have installed the power door locks that I bought almost a year ago.
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I just installed my mini d2s kit I got from the trs group buy. They are 55w 6000k morimoto bullbs. After they warm up for a while something starts flickering. Its almost like a piece of dust on the bulbs that move except it only happens once they warm up. I have cleaned the bulbs with alcohol multiple times.
Do you use a relay harness that draws power directly from the battery?
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Do you use a relay harness that draws power directly from the battery?
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After getting my HID conversion (of Hella Halogen 4000 lamps) done by that guy in Orange County, and going through the months of hassle to get the right color, ballast that doesn't blow up, etc. I posted here about the flicker as seen in your video... I described it as the look of a candle flame in a light breeze, and not an on-off flick of the light switch.

So, you are not alone, and my HIDs still work after 2 years, although I rarely use them (rarely drive at night and no money to go desert camping lately)!
Following up... understand that the lights work, and do the job... you would never know it 'candle flickered' unless you drove up to a wall or in your garage and stared at the wall to see the movement. It doesn't get darker it just 'moves' within the lighted pattern.
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I have another question. I also ordered halos and installed them. I was so eager to get them working I never read the directions and just kinda guessed how to wire them. Long story short, I didnt use a relay and wired them directly to my dtrl. Now, they wont turn on and Ive determined that its the little black cylinder voltage regulators that came with the halos. I assume that because I didnt use a relay (my bad). Will TRS replace the little black voltage things or can I buy them locally?
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Well as many who don't like DDM Tuning ballasts or any other product from them, I am a firm believer in their products for the price. I have had 0 issues with any of their products and will continue to buy parts from them.

As far as the flicker goes, does it stop when the brights are on or is it constant?
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I have another question. I also ordered halos and installed them. I was so eager to get them working I never read the directions and just kinda guessed how to wire them. Long story short, I didnt use a relay and wired them directly to my dtrl. Now, they wont turn on and Ive determined that its the little black cylinder voltage regulators that came with the halos. I assume that because I didnt use a relay (my bad). Will TRS replace the little black voltage things or can I buy them locally?
If you wired CCFL halos directly to the DRL, the flashing from the turn signal blew them.
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Well as many who don't like DDM Tuning ballasts or any other product from them, I am a firm believer in their products for the price. I have had 0 issues with any of their products and will continue to buy parts from them.
Have you dealt with their customer service?

I used DDM products in a number of vehicles, and other than one ballast, I had no quality problems that couldn't be traced to bad grounding.
And I apologize to the other people on the road that had to deal with my splattering headlights.

Anyways, in 2009, they actually yanked their phone number. Posted on the web site they did it so their reps could take care of customers in the order problems were reported.
Toward the end of 2010, they announced that they were no longer selling retrofit systems as of March 2011... March 2011 came and went and they didn't stop selling them, so I'm assuming there was a management change, or perhaps things went better for them after they relocated to Huntington Beach from San Diego.

I had a ballast replaced during the time their phones were "off" and it was a major hassle.
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As far as the flicker goes, does it stop when the brights are on or is it constant?
OP reported it's on both, which would be expected since burner power is not switched.
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As far as the flicker goes, does it stop when the brights are on or is it constant?
It doesn't start until they are warmed up, and continues as long as I had them on in my garage.
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I have another question. I also ordered halos and installed them. I was so eager to get them working I never read the directions and just kinda guessed how to wire them. Long story short, I didnt use a relay and wired them directly to my dtrl. Now, they wont turn on and Ive determined that its the little black cylinder voltage regulators that came with the halos. I assume that because I didnt use a relay (my bad). Will TRS replace the little black voltage things or can I buy them locally?
My passenger side did the same thing except it only lasted about 15 mins. I spoke with andrew regarding this and he stated "they've been having numerous prob's with the quality of the latest batch of V. Regs". They sent me new ones the same day....no questions asked. I don't know if the CCFL halos have the voltage reg. but I'm assuming that you have the LED ones..... Either way, give them a call... Great customer service in my book.

Oh and I too have the flikr described....It's identical...like a candle waving in a very slight breeze. I can see it while driving though and it's pretty annoying.
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If you wired CCFL halos directly to the DRL, the flashing from the turn signal blew them.
They are led halos and they dont flash with turn signal anyway
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They are led halos and they dont flash with turn signal anyway
LED should not have been a problem even flashing.

And I'm not sure where this "relay harness required for halos" came from... Andrew said that it was not required for warranty, so if they have failed, you're in good shape.
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LED should not have been a problem even flashing.

And I'm not sure where this "relay harness required for halos" came from... Andrew said that it was not required for warranty, so if they have failed, you're in good shape.
So would you recommend wiring with the relay or just splice them back in like they were before?
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The candle effect is the arc flickering in the HID envelope. It may go away after a good long burn time as the electrodes wear a little, or if it doesn't probably time to replace them. I've seen this in a few of the really cheap HID burners in the past when retrofitting rechargeable spotlights. Easy to spot there. Sometimes hard to spot on the car with the engine running...
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