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Old 03-20-2013, 07:34 PM   #41
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So would you recommend wiring with the relay or just splice them back in like they were before?
A relay is never a bad idea.
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The candle effect is the arc flickering in the HID envelope. It may go away after a good long burn time as the electrodes wear a little, or if it doesn't probably time to replace them. I've seen this in a few of the really cheap HID burners in the past when retrofitting rechargeable spotlights. Easy to spot there. Sometimes hard to spot on the car with the engine running...
So what's the breakdown on flicker...
Morimoto?
Philips?
Osram?
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The candle effect is the arc flickering in the HID envelope. It may go away after a good long burn time as the electrodes wear a little, or if it doesn't probably time to replace them. I've seen this in a few of the really cheap HID burners in the past when retrofitting rechargeable spotlights. Easy to spot there. Sometimes hard to spot on the car with the engine running...
UPDATE: I have been running my truck with the lights on all the time. The flickering has gone down to little to none at all. I guess you were right.
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Have you looked into these... IVe done plenty of HID installs in different vehicles and every kit ive done with the D2s Came with these in a full kit

Antiflicker

not the Ebay kind but they shouldnt be bad. But regarless they should help with the flickering after warm up
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Have you looked into these... IVe done plenty of HID installs in different vehicles and every kit ive done with the D2s Came with these in a full kit

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Not needed on most Toyota vehicles.

That device "fools" the BCM into seeing the proper resistance so it does not trigger a "headlight out" warning. Most Toyotas do not have this circuit.

It will do nothing to impact "flicker" in these situations. The harness is providing constant power to the ballast (which is where this goes). The issue is in the lamp itself having an unstable arc.
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Not needed on most Toyota vehicles.

That device "fools" the BCM into seeing the proper resistance so it does not trigger a "headlight out" warning. Most Toyotas do not have this circuit.

It will do nothing to impact "flicker" in these situations. The harness is providing constant power to the ballast (which is where this goes). The issue is in the lamp itself having an unstable arc.
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Can someone tell me why you wouldnt just buy the complete headlight package from someplace like protuninglab (and if you have, are they worth it), they sell complete HID kits with the ballasts pre-wired for $300. And they claim to be plug and play. I didnt price the individual parts through TRS so I may be talking oout of my a$$
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Can someone tell me why you wouldnt just buy the complete headlight package from someplace like protuninglab (and if you have, are they worth it), they sell complete HID kits with the ballasts pre-wired for $300. And they claim to be plug and play. I didnt price the individual parts through TRS so I may be talking oout of my a$$

The projectors in aftermarket headlights are substandard at best. I haven't seen a good output shot from any of the aftermarket projector headlights. Also, aftermarket headlights are notorious for leakage. As far as the ballast that is offered I am sure it is a step down from a Morimoto ballast.
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Is it your passenger side, drivers side or both? Becasue my passenger side does the same thing...
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Is it your passenger side, drivers side or both? Becasue my passenger side does the same thing...
Like I said, the more I run them the less they seem to flicker. Currently after they have been installed for over a month, they don't flicker at all. I think it was the Morimoto burner inside the bulb. The only reason I bought morimoto bulbs was because I wanted 6000k and couldn't find Phillips bulbs in 6000k.
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The only reason I bought morimoto bulbs was because I wanted 6000k and couldn't find Phillips bulbs in 6000k.
Philips only makes a bulb in 4300k temp range. Anything other than that as you found out has to be sourced from another manufacturer. I guess the new Osram CBI bulbs are the cat's meow.
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Philips only makes a bulb in 4300k temp range. Anything other than that as you found out has to be sourced from another manufacturer. I guess the new Osram CBI bulbs are the cat's meow.
If I did decide to go with the Osram cbi down the road will the 35w bulbs work in my 55w morimoto ballast?
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The projectors in aftermarket headlights are substandard at best. I haven't seen a good output shot from any of the aftermarket projector headlights. Also, aftermarket headlights are notorious for leakage. As far as the ballast that is offered I am sure it is a step down from a Morimoto ballast.

All good to know info, thats kind of what I expected to hear, I just wanted to hear it from someone that has actually dealt with the subject/parts/pieces involved. When they try to sell you a warranty and have a disclaimer about leakage on the first page of their web-site its saying something. I'll stick with factory for now and spend my $$$ on other mods.
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If I did decide to go with the Osram cbi down the road will the 35w bulbs work in my 55w morimoto ballast?
It will work, but it will appear to be a lower temp, as the higher wattage washes it out.

But it will shorten the life of the bulb. I wouldn't do it.
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help with hid kiy

I have a 2006 Toyota Tacoma and just installed spyder headlights and I'm trying to install HID kit but no instructions on how to install it in those types of lens.
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Good luck.

A couple of members have done it with the Mini-H1, but it is FAR from a plug and play and required a lot of cutting and fabricating mounting brackets.
I think Moose went through two Spyder housings before getting it right.
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