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Old 07-05-2013, 10:34 PM   #2
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You know, I actually just made a post on something about this, except for only using them as fog lights instead. I would stray away from using them as headlights. Anyways, with that kind of money you would be spending for them you are better off doing a retrofit of the real HID's.

You could always buy them and test them though if you really want to and post up results
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I am thinking about giving them a shot. The retrofit conversion is a lot harder to do than this would be, considering if I did them myself. If I were to buy a set they would be much more expensive and I'm not sure they would be worth the high price tag. They do look great but are they really worth the money?
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Not to screw you up but I did find some others that may be better.

"60 watt H4 Headlights"
http://www.amazon.com/Jtech-Power-He...productDetails

"26 watt H4 Headlights"
http://www.amazon.com/Jtech-Power-Xe...A12J7DMK6HQWCS

"H10 foglight 26W"
http://www.amazon.com/Jtech-Power-Xe...DateDescending
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If you do get these kind of lights, do let me know how they work. I am interested in some as well, but have no idea whether they would work well enough.
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Those kits don't have a hi and low beam though, I am hesitant on them though because all of the other kits with just the bulbs like you found on Amazon aren't very bright at all. If you look closely at the one I found on Ebay they have a fan on the base of the bulb to keep them cool. I haven't seen another kit that has those or has a high and low beam.
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Those kits don't have a hi and low beam though, I am hesitant on them though because all of the other kits with just the bulbs like you found on Amazon aren't very bright at all. If you look closely at the one I found on Ebay they have a fan on the base of the bulb to keep them cool. I haven't seen another kit that has those or has a high and low beam.
You do not need a fan to cool down LED's. They run cool enough as it is. As long as you get one that has an aluminum heat sink base to it, that's pretty much all you need to run them.

Damn you are right about high/low beam. I didn't even notice that.

IDK about brightness but I just found an interesting video of some guy and his charger, it looked pretty damn bright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpswYM6-IKk
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Nice setup on that Challenger but I wonder what kind of light it puts out at longer distances. Let me clarify my previous statement when I said they aren't bright I meant that they might be bright close up but they don't seem to project the light as far as a halogen or HID's do. I guess depending on the reflector used and the lumens the led's are they could possibly project the same distance as the halogens or HID's. I have searched some of the other Youtube videos and looked at some of the comparison videos of the LED's to the halogens and HID's and the LED's don't seem to project out as far as the others. But then again it depends on the bulb lumens and type of LED's too. I wish I could find someone who has that setup already and get their opinion on it. I see that a couple of the Ebay kits have sold and they gave the seller positive feedback for them, so maybe it is a good kit.
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There was someone on here that had a full led headlight assembly replacement. It wasn't just a led drop in light, it was a full headlight with LEDs integrated.....gonna try find it

But it cost him $600 IIRC
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I've searched a lot on these forums and I have not found anything about a full LED retrofit in the headlights at all.
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You do not need a fan to cool down LED's. They run cool enough as it is.
Not true.

26 watts is 26 watts... It's cooler than a 60w lamp, but it's still plenty hot.
Put your hand on a 25w light bulb and tell me how "cool enough" it is.

Add to that, heat is a semiconductor's worst enemy. That 26w set from Amazon is not going to last long without a heat sink.

Do you own a Surefire or Fenix tactical flashlight? Check the instructions... there are warnings about extended running on higher output settings and against touching the housing when running on higher settings.
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I've searched a lot on these forums and I have not found anything about a full LED retrofit in the headlights at all.
It's still pretty new technology. It will become more common and quality and prices will get more favorable as newer electric and hybrid vehicles drive production.

Right now, as always, "you get what you pay for" and the cheap shit coming out of China is not going to work out well, just as the cheap HID kits have issues.
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Not true.

26 watts is 26 watts... It's cooler than a 60w lamp, but it's still plenty hot.
Put your hand on a 25w light bulb and tell me how "cool enough" it is.

Add to that, heat is a semiconductor's worst enemy. That 26w set from Amazon is not going to last long without a heat sink.

Do you own a Surefire or Fenix tactical flashlight? Check the instructions... there are warnings about extended running on higher output settings and against touching the housing when running on higher settings.
I have owned several streamlight flashlights before (mainly stingers), but not a fenix nor surefire. That probably explains why the people in the reviews would mention that the bulbs were nice until they burnt out in short order.

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It's still pretty new technology. It will become more common and quality and prices will get more favorable as newer electric and hybrid vehicles drive production.

Right now, as always, "you get what you pay for" and the cheap shit coming out of China is not going to work out well, just as the cheap HID kits have issues.
I can't see the sets which have a fan built into them lasting very long running as long as headlights do. The fan portion would more then likely burn out in short order on these made in china sets if I was to venture a guess.
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The fan itself bugs me in an underhood environment, I think it's a band-aid for consumer-level cost considerations, but those units do have a heat sink that extends outside of the housing where ambient air can cool it.

It would be interesting to see how Audi and other automakers are handling it.
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The fan itself bugs me in an underhood environment, I think it's a band-aid for consumer-level cost considerations, but those units do have a heat sink that extends outside of the housing where ambient air can cool it.

It would be interesting to see how Audi and other automakers are handling it.
I have done a lot of searching about these jewels and one in particular interested me. It was on the BMW forums if I remember correctly. The guy mentioned that one of them blew in fairly short order and he had it hooked up all correctly.

The problem you have to consider too is the continuous duty of the fan while the headlights are on, and not only that, the under hood temps do not help either..
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I have done a lot of searching about these jewels and one in particular interested me. It was on the BMW forums if I remember correctly. The guy mentioned that one of them blew in fairly short order and he had it hooked up all correctly.

The problem you have to consider too is the continuous duty of the fan while the headlights are on, and not only that, the under hood temps do not help either..
Ya, the technology just isn't quite ready for prime time in a package with a cost suitable for aftermarket. Much like HID systems were in 2004... all you could get was an OEM system that you'd have to custom fit.
The plug-in kits came a couple of years later, were regulated off the market, then came back.

Now, 10 years later, we have some nice, servicable projector retrofits available.
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They do need work.. but they definitely are the future.. I know that much. They more then likely will phase out HID's in due time.
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They do need work.. but they definitely are the future.. I know that much. They more then likely will phase out HID's in due time.
Absolutely. The sooner the better. Some quality LED projectors would be awesome.
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I had looked a few months back at LED headlight conversions, and as usual for me with lighting on a vehicle, I like to check local laws and such. I am not sure on each state, and since we have 50 of them, I didn't take the time to look. On thing that popped up fast on an internet search was California. I have found that several other states also support this in that changing your headlights from what is stock can be considered illegal. This includes changing from factory halogen to the much better HID lights.
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So yes, you can see better, and they are much longer lasting, but MAY be considered illegal. Yes, some newer cars are coming from the factory with LED headlights, but those have been approved by SAE and DOT. If the lights you are looking at installing do NOT say SAE or DOT approved, I would reconsider using them. Of course it is not my vehicle but I just want to suggest anyone looking at doing a headlight conversion to check with the local laws before doing so. Some states it won't be an issue, but as we all know California tends to be pretty strict on vehicles.
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I'm a bit skeptical about how 1800 lumens is going to throw light as far as an HID or even a halogen bulb on hi. Just seems like it's not enough lumens. That video portrayed the light against a garage door less than 20 ft away. Sure it will look bright, but how's it look on the open road. I don't think the technology is there yet as far as adding it as an aftermarket upgrade but I do hope LED's replace HID's soon.
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