Long Travel BS Thread

oh no worries, and again im only informing as it would suck if something happened and radio gear and vehicle were taken low power is your friend.

They aren't due to number of complaints, they work off of a complaint system and not as a pure lets go see whats going on here system.

I understand about the rampant abundance of radios being used, lets take a stadium or sports center that have say 50 radios for workers and what not.
If a license was issued for that frequency or frequencies they often break that up into a few companies/entities and have the radios programmed with a PL tone, the radio and or repeater uses a transmit and receive tone with the radios main carrier that only turns on the paired radio(s) and or repeater so it's like a secondary key for the frequency.

So yes with a non PL set up receiver you would hear alot of chatter so to speak.

Simply put, the spectrum of safe and usable frequencies for the public and or commercial use is zip "0" right now, and the FCC is on a revenue binge so the mighty Dollar will eventually win.

 

There is usually a base station/HQ/security station that monitors all traffic at the venues. That secondary key makes sense in that situation.

All other situations seems like they fall into the "lack of complaints" category. If you are out in the middle of the desert there isn't going to be a lot of people to piss off per frequency.

However if you decide to mess around in a Downtown area you are probably going to stomp over someone important and get noticed.

So for what we do, its technically illegal but we are unlikely to get noticed if we are operating reasonably. If we start being children and stomping on the wrong frequency then we deserve what may come next.

Thank you for taking the time to explain. I appreciate that you didn't come in like most HAMtards and just throw rules and codes around.

 

Not a problem, as a holder of a Amateur as well as a Commercial license I understand that most of the public isn't informed and or is being taken advantage of by resellers who know its wrong but profit from it anyway and let the public take the hit.

A long term goal of mine was/is to acquire a UHF business repeater and have it set up for us Desert SoCal folks to use. Tall order so to speak.

 

Yeah the business end is where you tend to get in trouble for. My dad was a corporate negotiator for Sprint and would buy bandwidth in certain frequency ranges and worked with the FCC daily. People would be surprised on how much a frequency is worth if its in the right bandwidth. My dad made old farmers millionaires by buying their frequency rights for Sprint. These guys bought that stuff back in the day now everyone wants it for 4g and other things in telecommunications

 

Absolutely Alex, currently the Oil and Gas industry are the gobblers of VHF/UHF bandwidth.

 

Where is the time machine when you need it?

 

They use them for SCADA systems don't they? I know they have microwave dishes next to all the valves and such. I was told by my grandpa that all the SCADA stuff is RF controlled

 

While I have you radio guru's about, would this be a good buy for playing/prerunning/chasing?

 

do you need UHF?

otherwise the Kenwood TM-281A is a great lil radio that is cheap and rugged, not alot of bells and whistles.

 

indeed, its changing though, its going to a much higher frequency.

 

I'm not sure what that means

But it use to be in a TT so it's pre-programmed with weatherman, bitd and some other stuff. Pretty good price.

 

Well if it was in a TT then it must be exactly what you need lol

 

Hahaha. I just thought if double check before purchasing.

 

Any reason why the Kenwood, Icom, Rugged Radios won't fit your needs?

 

It is a kenwood my friend.

 

If I were you if look into getting a 2 meter radio. They are nice because you can modify them to transmit on all the race frequencies (MARS CAP mod) and you also have a broad range of frequencies on the fly. If I'm not mistaken, a "race radio" has to be programmed and you only have a certain number of frequencies you can use.

I have the Icom ic-v8000 and I really like it quite a bit. You can just plug in whatever frequency you want to use (136-174 MHz).

 

Said that since its not the one everyone else normally gets due to price. TM-281a

Is it a better deal that the $100 that Jim is selling his for? Is price the deal since you said it was cheap?

The radio is just a small part of the deal. You need an antenna also. Are you going to run a mic or headsets? If headsets than you need a control box, wiring and headsets. On of those things make the price of the radio itself chump change. I just paid more for a headset and cables than my TM-281a.

 

Go icom, you'll never regret it

 

^this

 

Any one see any 4x4 lt second gens fs?