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Old 09-29-2012, 10:41 AM   #81
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-Bushings without sleeves. Tighten bolts on bushings. Squish bushings. Control arms do not move freely, and they squawk when they move the tiniest bit. These bushings and this design is WORTHLESS.

-Hd steering upgrade blows. One of my outer heims took a dump after 5000 miles.

-Bolts that screw into the steering rack (for he steering) keep coming loose. Thread locker, correct torque, and even too much torque won't hold them tight.

This is just my experience. If I was to do it again, I'd try total chaos.
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:30 PM   #82
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bushings without sleeves?!
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-Bushings without sleeves. Tighten bolts on bushings. Squish bushings. Control arms do not move freely, and they squawk when they move the tiniest bit. These bushings and this design is WORTHLESS.

-Hd steering upgrade blows. One of my outer heims took a dump after 5000 miles.

-Bolts that screw into the steering rack (for he steering) keep coming loose. Thread locker, correct torque, and even too much torque won't hold them tight.

This is just my experience. If I was to do it again, I'd try total chaos.
My outer heims took a dump too, although not that fast.
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:59 PM   #84
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bushings without sleeves?!
Yeah. That's how allpro does it. At least lately they do. I know a few guys who have purchased it lately and it's just the same.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:08 PM   #85
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That's weird..I have sleeves in my kit. Ill confirm tomorrow or Monday...
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:11 PM   #86
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If your bushing are squishing out, and you've got those big black washer on either side of all the bushings, that's a bad sign.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:41 PM   #87
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well done good sir... well done
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:18 PM   #88
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-Bushings without sleeves. Tighten bolts on bushings. Squish bushings. Control arms do not move freely, and they squawk when they move the tiniest bit. These bushings and this design is WORTHLESS.

-Hd steering upgrade blows. One of my outer heims took a dump after 5000 miles.

-Bolts that screw into the steering rack (for he steering) keep coming loose. Thread locker, correct torque, and even too much torque won't hold them tight.

This is just my experience. If I was to do it again, I'd try total chaos.
Jamie,
Looks like all pro just forgot to include sleeves with your bushings. Mine came with sleeves.



Give them a call, I'm sure they will make it right.

I didn't get the hd steering due to complaints like this. My factory rods with the extensions have held up just fine.
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:40 PM   #89
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i guess if you are not running inserts then no wonder your bushings are squishing out

thats just crazy!!!!!! if thats the case
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I'm pretty sure my kit was installed without sleeves, by AP. Bushings are squishing out.

I'm thinking I just need to take this kit off the truck and strip it down, repaint it, and replace all the bushings.
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:27 PM   #91
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Ugh this grinds the crap out of my gears....(not literally).
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:16 PM   #92
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I'm pretty sure my kit was installed without sleeves, by AP. Bushings are squishing out.

I'm thinking I just need to take this kit off the truck and strip it down, repaint it, and replace all the bushings.
I can understand something like this happening if you installed it yourself and you've never done suspension work before, but for a reputable company to install it incorrectly... man thats terrible .

Attention to detail! This is why I don't trust anyone to work on my stuff!

I've always been happy with All Pro, even when something gets forgotten or I got shipped the wrong product, they were quick to make it right.

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Ugh this grinds the crap out of my gears....(not literally).
Seriously, call AP up and get them to send you some sleeves, at this point you may want to ask for some new bushings as well.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:14 PM   #93
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Thing is for me, kit has been on there for 2 years.

The uppers are sleeved. The lowers have squished bushings but i haven't dropped them yet to check.
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I am curious to see the picture of the squished bushings. I don't have AP LT but that was my #1 choice if and when I were to go LT.
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What bushings/sleeves are we talking about? I know my tc uppers squeak like crazy
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:23 AM   #97
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09blacktaco how long have u had the lights mounted like that on the main hoop?
I had the red rings mounted on the hoop for a long time. Greater than 1 year. Took them off a short time ago in favor of a Rigid 30.

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Looks awesome! I have the same lights but didn't realize there was a small drain hole under the adjustment so water would get in
Yep, water will get in that hole. Especially when you mount them upside down like i did.
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Are those factory fenders? They look a little wider than mine in this pic. Any problems with rubbing now that you have the LT kit up front?
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