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need advice for rear sua

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by biggie, May 4, 2012.

  1. May 4, 2012 at 3:57 PM
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    biggie

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    havent been with my truck for a while and now that shes back in my life i need to buy her something so im taking care of her rear first

    got a friend who is helping me with the bedcage gonna look similar to this but with a traditional tire carrier
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    now im planning on doing sua with some deavers 12in shackles and some 16" resis

    my tires are 265 and im not looking for a lot of extra lift from where it is now
    what are my best options for a rear sua setup that wont result in too much lift than this
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    thanks just wanna make sure i get this right the first time
     
  2. May 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM
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    You got it all pretty much right there. Deaver F67's with a 12" shackle over the frame, simple bed cage with some 16" shocks and your good. Thats exactly what I have if you check my build except I have a pair of 18" SAW's I got used from a member here
     
  3. May 6, 2012 at 7:08 PM
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  4. May 7, 2012 at 8:25 AM
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  5. May 7, 2012 at 9:03 AM
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  6. May 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM
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    so what all do i need to mount the springs under the axle?
    is there an sua kit out there for 1st gens
     
  7. May 9, 2012 at 8:22 AM
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    giant offers a SUA kit for 1st gens, but i'm more of a fan of TC

    http://giantmotorsports.com/content/view/40/50/

    you'll need:

    front spring hangers
    axle perches
    u bolt plates
    shackles
    shackle pivot gussets
    lower shock mounts

    http://www.chaosfab.com/toyaccess_rearsus.html

    http://www.kartek.com/Product/Suspension/UboltPlates.html

    you'll also need longer brake line and it would be a really good idea to box and plate the rear section of the frame, and run a nice urethane bump stop if you're not planning to do an air bump
     
  8. May 9, 2012 at 2:31 PM
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    Worth it sua lt ftw.
     
  9. Jul 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM
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    alright so after countless setbacks im finally back to my build got almost everything worked out just having some second thoughts about which leaf kit to get. everyone seems to love the f67 but my truck isnt all that lifted im wondering if a j59 pack would be better?? im not doing a very big bed cage just some shock hoops that might tie into a bumper/tire carrier so im sure there wont be too much added weight? what do you guys think?
     
  10. Jul 17, 2012 at 6:04 PM
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    Deaver j59 is meant for stock location spring over not under. F67s would work great, if not also the 50T leaf pack from Engage.
     
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    ^Exactly. J59 is not a long travel leaf pack, you def want F67's. If you do 12" shackles over the frame at 52.5" it works perfect with F67's on a 1st gen extra cab. Unless you plan on adding a bunch of weight in the rear the 50t pack might be a little high for ride height
     
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    alot of metal, small engine, decent travel.
    caged, camburg long travel, 50t leafpack (soon to be installed) light rack over cab, 5pt harnesses etc
    50t you will need to take out several leafs..
    unless you plan on doing dual spares and alot of weight id go for the deavers
     
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    right on just waiting for some springs and i think my buddy is fabbing everything else
     
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    i got some 50ts if your interested, BRAND SPANKING NEW. never even mocked up.. pm me.
     
  16. Jul 19, 2012 at 3:45 PM
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    how about shock angles if i have them mounted to the shock hoops like in the first picture then it would tie into a rear bumper/carrier but if i decide to do a full cage later down the road something tucked into the cab might be better?
    i thought the 30* angle towards the rear was the best for bump travel but no one around here has em mounted that way?
     
  17. Jul 19, 2012 at 3:52 PM
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    You dont want to just pick a shock angle. You need to cycle the suspension with the shock attached to the axle to get an accurate measurement of where the top should be mounted to make sure you are using all of the shocks travel

    Check out the photo below. Bottom the suspension and bottom the shock and mark a line where the upper makes an arc. Extend the suspension all the way and extend the shocks all the way and make a 2nd arc. The 2 will cross at one point, that is where you want to mount the shock


    [​IMG]
     
  18. Jul 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM
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    is there a difference between having them facing the cab or the back or does every setup cycle differently?
     
  19. Jul 19, 2012 at 4:20 PM
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    Ive read somewhere before on why people dont lean them to the rear but I cant remember why :eek:
     
  20. Jul 19, 2012 at 5:46 PM
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    You get more travel leaning forwards due to the axle moving forward at bump. The shocks also damp more linearly, especially at bump where you need it most.

    You can mount the shocks off the back of the axle and lean them forwards to keep your stock gas tank and get the most travel.
     

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