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Old 07-28-2010, 09:30 AM   #21
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I was a carpentry and masonry specialist in a combat engineering unit. Got to play with c4 and such during training so it was still exciting(not quite infantry but you get the point) yet even though I dont work construction now with that on my resume when I have been out of work I have never had a problem walking on a job site and getting a job when needed.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:39 AM   #22
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Tell him to research it fully before going in. Put aside all fantasies and glory seeking.
What will he do when he gets shot at. Does he like sleeping outside without showering for long periods of time. Will he take orders. How much BS will he tolerate and still get the job done.
Does he really know what he's getting himself into? Make sure he's ready to accept the fact that he might not come back. Better to go in with both eyes open, than regret ti later.
The service is not for everyone. Some services more than others.
I would do it again. Just wish I stayed in
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:41 AM   #23
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I work for recruiting and might be able to give him alittle more insight. If your interested. Pm me if so.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:47 AM   #24
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I've been retired for a while now, but I would really suggest he wait until he's 18 before enlisting. I know he can't do so without parental signatures, but it sounds as if he really needs to mature a little more, thus the suggestion he wait. Air Force basic is a lot different than it was when I went through, and Army basic is also very different from what it was years ago. All branches want young men, but they also want them to be mature enough to put aside their own desires and accept the training they are given. If he's not ready to do that, he's not ready for military service. I know that a lot of older military members (including me), tell the younger people that the military builds character and respect for others, but they have to be willing to accept their training. I really don't think a 17 year old is actually ready to accept that commitment.
I have to disagree.. i joined at 17 for 6 years active duty, i've been in for 4 years now and it is the best choice have ever made! tell your son to look online for jobs in the medical field..esp 68P radiology specialist it is definatly the best job that transfers directly to the civilian side.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:46 PM   #25
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My mother threw a fit when I told her I was enlisting to be an EOD tech. But ultimatly chosing to serve in the military is the best choice I have ever made, I love every day of it. Its a very rewarding career, may want to have him take a look.
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I save lives, I don't take them!

There is no more satisfaction out of life than grabbing mans hand, seeing the fear in their eyes and pulling them from deaths grip so they can see their wife or children that night.

The Coast Guard is always an option. It's sad that we are at capacity now and not taking in Active Duty (until next year) but if he is interested let one of the Coasties on here know, we'll gladly show him what we do.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:42 PM   #27
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what that guy said !!! HELL YEH CHICKN!! seeing that look in a persons eye, truely saving a life, is an unbelievable feeling... nothing like it.

anyway. If mom doesn't want to sign paper, that is her right. If your son has to wait til 18, and you want him to see the full story before he signs up, that is good.
A recruiter is not the way to see it though. They show you the glory, the shiney stuff. They won't show you the pain, troubles, crap, lies, etc...
Go to the source, meet military guys (guys that your son would be like, not 20 year vets... young guys a few years in). You be the one to take him to all those things. He wants to join military, so he is happy with you because you are showing him military. And you and your wife will be happy because you are showing him the true side, all sides, not just the glam and glitter.

Cheers and good luck.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:55 PM   #28
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What ever choice he makes I wish him luck. He sounds like a great kid.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:04 PM   #29
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He can send me an email. I'm a SSgt in the USMC.

teufelhunden10@yahoo.com

Also, most occupations in the military will allow newbies to come check out what they do. The infantry, not gonna happen. They don't want anyone to see what it's like before they get there because most wouldn't do it. It's for very few people.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:10 AM   #30
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I save lives, I don't take them!

There is no more satisfaction out of life than grabbing mans hand, seeing the fear in their eyes and pulling them from deaths grip so they can see their wife or children that night.

The Coast Guard is always an option. It's sad that we are at capacity now and not taking in Active Duty (until next year) but if he is interested let one of the Coasties on here know, we'll gladly show him what we do.

You should think about what you write Kilted Chicken. Those of us who have walked in harms way to see that guys like you can "SAVE LIVES, I DON'T TAKE THEM" might take offense on what looks like a slam against us...I certainly do. Protecting the nation and our way of life has some special meaning to us. By the way the Coast Guard was in the middle east, performing combat duty.
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The couple of guys on here who enlisted at 17 may be an exception, but as a high school teacher, I have to deal with too many immature 17 year olds to think most of them have the ability to dedicate themselves to any endeavor which requires them to follow orders, let alone have the self discipline to put others before themselves. Most of them still need to finish high school.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:29 PM   #32
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The couple of guys on here who enlisted at 17 may be an exception, but as a high school teacher, I have to deal with too many immature 17 year olds to think most of them have the ability to dedicate themselves to any endeavor which requires them to follow orders, let alone have the self discipline to put others before themselves. Most of them still need to finish high school.
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Joined the USNR at 17 y/o (with permission) and was just out of high school and was headed for college. Was promised a SeaBee slot while going to college. Never happened, they had too many Seabees and they put me in the "surface division" where I became a corpsman. Several years later was called on active duty (when that lying LBJ said reserves were not being called). Most of our reserve unit's corpsman were sent to USMC FMF Wes Pac (USMC Fleet Marine Force Western Pacific) aka RVN. I went FMF and and later did a full USMC transfer and more school and became a helicopter pilot. Got banged up several times in RVN and then out on a PEB medical. Did the civilian business world for 30 years and later was given full disability retirement.

I was very lucky and was always part of a team that covered each others azz, we learned discipline, sacrifice and team work. Always did the best that I could (with no excuses), took orders & gave orders and didn't try to be a hero. We lost some very good corpsman and flight crews ... but I survived and grew up very fast.

The military taught me sacrifice and gave me the structure & discipline for the rest of my life. And I will NEVER forget those times in the military and those that I served with either ... NEVER ... they were a great bunch of people.

IMO, once he is 18 y/o and out of high school ... give him some guidance and let him go. As he grows up, he will thank you.

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Old 07-29-2010, 02:08 PM   #34
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Maybe suggest ROTC, get him through college, graduate with a degree and go into the Army as an officer. His mother might be more open to that option also.
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I considered enlisting when I was 17, but my parents were against it and would not sign with me. So I began looking into my other options. I read about the scholarship opportunities from ROTC and applied for one.
IMO, it is a good idea. It's almost comparable to "test-driving" military life. Without actually being 100% committed. Not to mention, if he finds that he hates college but loves the military, he can still enlist later. My parents are still a little uneasy about me going into the military, but they are much more comfortable with the decision to become an officer as well as having a college degree to fall back on. I have no regrets about taking this route. Full-ride college scholarship is a big plus also.
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