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Old 12-16-2010, 02:40 PM   #21
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I'm not sure of the instruction, but I believe it was in boot were I learned no matter the rank disparity, one salutes a MOH recipient- even the CNO would salute an E1 if he had the MOH. This was even expressed in an NCIS episode.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:03 PM   #23
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He's not the first president not to salute during the MOH ceremony.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...l-of-honor.htm

I personally found his speech to be full of reverence and respect for Staff Sergeant Giunta.
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Video of ceremony here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2RWs...layer_embedded


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Old 12-19-2010, 04:31 PM   #25
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He's not the first president not to salute during the MOH ceremony.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...l-of-honor.htm

I personally found his speech to be full of reverence and respect for Staff Sergeant Giunta.
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... ^^^ ... DITTO ... I saw it in real time on TV and Obama even expressed verbally ... "I really like this guy".

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Old 02-16-2011, 02:39 AM   #26
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MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS
General Protocol and Information
SALUTE:
There is no law or military regulation that sets forth a requirement for military personnel of any rank to salute a Medal of Honor recipient. It is presumed that this assumption arises from an old custom in the Army when the Medal of Honor ceremonies included a regimental or brigade parade. The recipient stood beside the officer receiving the “pass in review” and, with that officer, returned the salutes of the company or unit commanders as they passed. However, it is permissible to salute a recipient as a display of respect or honor – whether he is civilian or retired military – when he is physically wearing the medal.
NOTE: If the recipient is still on active duty and is a commissioned officer, those of a lower rank will salute him as per military regulations.

Maybe its different in the Navy, I dont know.
The navy doesn't salute indoors. If that was indoors? I didn't read that obvious crap article.

According to my studies.. granted a while ago. You will never find a regulation on saluting in the air force, as it is a courtesy it is passed on as a custom not a law. But upholding customs is part of the whole "conduct becoming" thing.

You can find instructions on ceremonial scripts etc, but not one saying "one must render salute like this" for every day. Or so I was told back in the day.

Haven't run into one.

I'd do whatever society told me to do. I'm not one for, what was for me, a matter of ceremony. But saluting a MOH winner doesn't jive with the history of the salute. Though I know it jives with modern hero worship. It doesn't make sense in traditional concept.
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I don't know about the other services but in the Army you are required to salute indoors when reporting to the Pay Officer for pay, reporting to a Commanding Officer, reporting to the President of a Board (Promotion), or during a Ceremony held indoors.
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Navy doesn't. I've saluted a Navy captain while receiving an award. It was returned with a strange look, but I was explained afterwards that i'm a dork.

Around NIOC anyway, the enlisted folk say they don't stand when talking to officers unless it's a staff officer either.
In training we saluted E-4 senior airmen and bucks when reporting.
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I would reason that since there hasn't been a Medal of Honor awarded to a living recipient since the Vietnam War, the protocols are a little dusty. That doesn't make POTUS unpatriotic.

What it does is make his handlers and briefers morons for not informing and instructing him on the traditional procedures in awarding MoH honors.

The President has many, many things to attend to, and know all the procedures of award ceremonies -- no matter how revered -- probably don't take up that much mental real estate. Someone on his staff fucked up big time and did not inform him of the tradition, and that is awful.

I'm sure he feels completely terrible for this breech of protocol, and if he could, would travel back in time and offer a proper salute. But it's over now, and the mistake has been made.

But calling POTUS unpatriotic is simply ignorant.
I agree on this particular instance, LH.

But in my opinion POTUS has a large and ever-growing body of work that flies in the face of the Constitution and traditional American values.

A good read for anyone that's interested: "The Roots of Obama's Rage" by Dinesh D'Souza.

Gives a real clear picture of what makes this guy tick...
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