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Old 01-19-2011, 06:49 AM   #1
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Military police??

Ive started to do some research on the military and i have noticed alot of good things that could come from it. I also know that i do not want to go back to a community college.. College doesnt seem like my first priority at the molment so thats why im considering the military. I picked the MPS because i would like to come back to the states with some prior police training under my belt to become hire-able or more to intrest to an imployer. Ive talked to many recruitors and marines seems like the 1 for me.

Hopefully some one who was in the marines recently or the MPS can chime in and give there .2 $

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Old 01-19-2011, 04:33 PM   #2
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Aren't you in the Air Force or did you already serve?

It isn't cool to display their service emblem if you aren't or haven't.
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Agreed. Not trying to be a prick, but if you're not/weren't in you should take them emblem down.
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Agreed. Not trying to be a prick, but if you're not/weren't in you should take them emblem down.
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I wear an ACU had with the Black Knights "A" on it, but I'm not in the Army. I use it as motivation for my Warrant package.

As far as the emblem, display it if you're proud of it. The rest of you shouldn't have a sports team emblem etc if you're not on the team. Just as stupid of a comment.

To the OP. I strongly recommend you don't choose an MP/Security Forces job. PM me if you've got other questions on it.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:25 AM   #6
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Why are you asking about the military when you have an Air Force badge??? If you didn't serve, take it down! I did serve in the Air Force and was in Security Forces, than crossed over to the Raven Spec Ops. squad and we just lost some brothers this week. Show some respect.
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Why are you asking about the military when you have an Air Force badge??? If you didn't serve, take it down! I did serve in the Air Force and was in Security Forces, than crossed over to the Raven Spec Ops. squad and we just lost some brothers this week. Show some respect.

hate to hear you lost some of your brothers.
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As far as the emblem, display it if you're proud of it. The rest of you shouldn't have a sports team emblem etc if you're not on the team. Just as stupid of a comment.



X2........ It is okay to be proud of a certain branch without having served in it. I have AF tshirts I got from friends in the AF. Should I not wear them because I wasn't in the AF?

If he is representing through typed or spoken words that he was in the AF that is one thing but to put up the emblem is no big deal.
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What exactly are "Raven Spec Ops"?
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As far as the emblem, display it if you're proud of it. The rest of you shouldn't have a sports team emblem etc if you're not on the team. Just as stupid of a comment.



X2........ It is okay to be proud of a certain branch without having served in it. I have AF tshirts I got from friends in the AF. Should I not wear them because I wasn't in the AF?

If he is representing through typed or spoken words that he was in the AF that is one thing but to put up the emblem is no big deal.


In my eyes.....no. It's just my opinion, but when you wear those and people see you, they think you served. You didn't earn that right or that respect.
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In my eyes.....no. It's just my opinion, but when you wear those and people see you, they think you served. You didn't earn that right or that respect.

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What exactly are "Raven Spec Ops"?


The Raven squadron in D.C. We are a mix of PJ and Combat Control
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What exactly are "Raven Spec Ops"?


http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforce/l/blraven.htm
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Thought it was something other than what I thought...but its no, its exactly what I thought it was.

I have flown with Ravens, and with all due respect, you are NOT Spec Op's...not even close. From my experience, they are cops in flight suits who guarded the airplane while we were in "bad" places. They also spent the night on it if no local security was available. You get this in a two week course at Ft. Dix.

Even IF you have a mix of PJ's and CCT, that does not make a Raven Special Operations. In nearly 20 years of flying on military aircraft and having worked with both PJ's and CCT (among others), I have NEVER heard of what you are talking about...PJ's, CCT, and Security Forces in some Spec Ops squadron together.

Pass along the squadron info and I will do some checking, if I am wrong, I will come back and admit it. Show me the errors in my ways.




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Why are you asking about the military when you have an Air Force badge??? If you didn't serve, take it down! I did serve in the Air Force and was in Security Forces, than crossed over to the Raven Spec Ops. squad and we just lost some brothers this week. Show some respect.
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The Raven squadron in D.C. We are a mix of PJ and Combat Control
so you guys are EMT, Paramedic, HALO, SERE, DIVE, AIRBORNE ATC certified??? cause PJ's and CCT's are.

no, Ravens are not spec ops. sorry... still security forces, just have a more broad mission. providing security for airlift operations and being air crew members doesn't mean special tactics
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Thought it was something other than what I thought...but its no, its exactly what I thought it was.

I have flown with Ravens, and with all due respect, you are NOT Spec Op's...not even close. From my experience, they are cops in flight suits who guarded the airplane while we were in "bad" places. They also spent the night on it if no local security was available. You get this in a two week course at Ft. Dix.

Even IF you have a mix of PJ's and CCT, that does not make a Raven Special Operations. In nearly 20 years of flying on military aircraft and having worked with both PJ's and CCT (among others), I have NEVER heard of what you are talking about...PJ's, CCT, and Security Forces in some Spec Ops squadron together.

Pass along the squadron info and I will do some checking, if I am wrong, I will come back and admit it. Show me the errors in my ways.

I myself, went through PJ school and cross trained into Combat Control. I was asked to become a Raven by my Squadron Commander. Yiu are correct, aome Raven are just cops in flight suits but there are units that actually DO SOMETHING. I wasn't as clear as I should have been. I was in a Spec Ops unit and my last unit was the Raven so they are who I claim. It's easier then rattling off all of the training and function badges I wore.
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Thought it was something other than what I thought...but its no, its exactly what I thought it was.

I have flown with Ravens, and with all due respect, you are NOT Spec Op's...not even close. From my experience, they are cops in flight suits who guarded the airplane while we were in "bad" places. They also spent the night on it if no local security was available. You get this in a two week course at Ft. Dix.

Even IF you have a mix of PJ's and CCT, that does not make a Raven Special Operations. In nearly 20 years of flying on military aircraft and having worked with both PJ's and CCT (among others), I have NEVER heard of what you are talking about...PJ's, CCT, and Security Forces in some Spec Ops squadron together.

Pass along the squadron info and I will do some checking, if I am wrong, I will come back and admit it. Show me the errors in my ways.



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so you guys are EMT, Paramedic, HALO, SERE, DIVE, AIRBORNE ATC certified??? cause PJ's and CCT's are.

no, Ravens are not spec ops. sorry... still security forces, just have a more broad mission. providing security for airlift operations and being air crew members doesn't mean special tactics



YES, actually I am EMT, Paramedic, HALO, SERE, DIVE, and Airborn certified. I was also in Sniper school in FT. Benning GA
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Gentlemen, this conversation has taken an unnecessary turn. No need to have a forum pissing contest. I did what I did, you did what you did. We are all on the same team and served this country with pride and honor. The main point was if you didn't serve, don't pose as if you did and wear military garb.
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YES, actually I am EMT, Paramedic, HALO, SERE, DIVE, and Airborn certified. I was also in Sniper school in FT. Benning GA
really? so you were in Pararescue and cross trained to security forces?

what indoc class were you in? what cadre member was your proctor?
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