Originally Posted by jessea1a
I remember everyone saying the pledge in school and I remember standing there not saying anything because my dad (USAF Vet.) told me that since this is America I had the right not to if I didn't feel like it. If kids want to say the pledge then they should be able to, if not thats their choice. I'm from Oregon, I'm (primarily) liberal, I'm agnostic, and I'm proud to be in a branch of the military that allows me to save the lives of American citizens (Candadians too-they're right next door).
Eugene is very different from the vast majority of Oregon cities as well. And I hate not being able to pump my own gas when I go home to visit....
And people who don't stand/remove their hats during the national anthem should be slapped and escorted out of the stadium!
To me, these contradict each other. You state that kids have the choice of stating the Pledge of Allegiance, but people (I'm guessing adults) who don't stand during the National Anthem should be escorted out of the stadium. Why do kids get a choice but adults don't? I feel that you stand up 100% or your points become invalid. But that's just me.
As a current vet (17 yrs so far), and from a family with a long line of military service, I think we need to have our kids standing, taking the time to recite the pledge. Doing so will instill a bit of respect for our flag/country and set them up for proper behavior later in life. It bugs the crap out of me when I see a senior citizen fighting to get out of his/her wheelchair to stand for the flag and some kid/young adult ignore/disrespect what he/we have fought for. Now reading about city council members making ignorant statements such has this make me wonder how they keep getting re-elected. “It sort of means loyalty to your country; well, I feel loyalty to the entire world.” You have loyalty to your country first. Service members understand this, patriots understand this, why can't lawmakers understand this? I hope folks take time to read up on people before they vote and talk to their friends about issues such as this.