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Old 12-09-2011, 03:03 PM   #41
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....from the flag down specific consideration needs to be paid to the professional demeanor and actions of each person involved in the process. It sends very mixed messages to everyone when we still appropriate funds to keeps personnel in Vietnam to locate and identify remains of lost members and then on the other hand see this level of gross [mis]behavior.
Right. Palehorse nailed it.
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This saddens me, to know that people who defended our country get treated like trash, literally and metaphorically. Just another reason why i will not be joining the Armed Forces. Do right and they throw you away like dust in the wind...
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Hearing these were remains of deceased soldiers made me sick to my stomach.

A ceremony at sea seems more dignified than a dump. Especially knowing the tissues are the remains of a soldier whose given all in service to their country.
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OMG this is terrible
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Wow. I cant believe that. This should be a HUGE wakeup call. Those poor guys died for us and we throw them in the trash? That makes me sick and depressed. Makes me think theres no hope for the world ya know?
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:50 PM   #47
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WOW thats pretty crappy!!!! I cant believe this happened.. I had to escort the body of my best friend home when he was killed in iraq, I would probably murder someone if this happened to him!!
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:52 PM   #48
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OP... This is the type of thing that our current administration trys to sweep under the rug. I do not serve in the military, but I support the people and their families. This should be dealt with decisively and harshly.. Just plain sad.. On my block of 20 plus houses there is one flag flying.. Mine.. You go to Sun City the retirement area, You see countless flags.. Wake up America, we are losing our pride and respect..
To all that serve, Thank you, I pray that God keeps you and your family safe! I will do my best to keep them safe at home!
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why is this such a big deal? families said they didnt want body parts, what is the af supposed to do with them?
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why is this such a big deal? families said they didnt want body parts, what is the af supposed to do with them?

Not toss them like garbage, you still have to treat the remains with respect.
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:04 PM   #51
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Not toss them like garbage, you still have to treat the remains with respect.
Agreed, I mean even though their families didnt want the body parts, THEY STILL DIED SERVING OUR COUNTRY!!!!

what do I know though Ive only deployed 5 times.......(11B)
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OP... This is the type of thing that our current administration trys to sweep under the rug. I do not serve in the military, but I support the people and their families. This should be dealt with decisively and harshly.. Just plain sad.. On my block of 20 plus houses there is one flag flying.. Mine.. You go to Sun City the retirement area, You see countless flags.. Wake up America, we are losing our pride and respect..
To all that serve, Thank you, I pray that God keeps you and your family safe! I will do my best to keep them safe at home!
If the 'current administration sweeps this under the rug', would it be doing a favor to the administration it occurred under?

Bullshit either way, and its easy to see why politicians of all flavors are held in such low regard these days.
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there are no words to describe how horrible this is
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Agreed, I mean even though their families didnt want the body parts, THEY STILL DIED SERVING OUR COUNTRY!!!!

what do I know though Ive only deployed 5 times.......(11B)
but its not them, its body parts. their remains got burried properly. this is garbage. and they did incinerate them first.

and deploying 5 times makes you cool
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no it doesnt matter to me. also, its the part of him trying to use it be better than everyone else here that bothers me. like that fact has anything to do with the conversation.
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but its not them, its body parts. their remains got burried properly. this is garbage. and they did incinerate them first.

and deploying 5 times makes you cool
body parts are still them, those body parts where out there fighting for us. Even if the families sign a waiver saying they do not want the remains back we still owe it to the men and women to respectfully dispose of them. on your last comment please go pick a fight elsewhere, not in here.
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if you dont wanna know dont ask. my opinion is my tax dollars dont need to be wasted to bury someones couple of fingers and maybe a foot "with honors". thats rediculous.
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if you dont wanna know dont ask. my opinion is my tax dollars dont need to be wasted to bury someones couple of fingers and maybe a foot "with honors". thats rediculous.
I don't think it's all that hard to transport those remains to sea on the occasion when there are enough to warrant it.
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why is this such a big deal? families said they didnt want body parts, what is the af supposed to do with them?
Agreed. The majority of the remains were unidentified and thus had no person that they belonged to. This was the DOD approved method from 2004 till 2008. There were plenty of people who knew about this and that’s why the investigation ensued. No one in the AF is to blame because they were simply following orders issued to them from higher hq.

The contract was written for the civilian contractors on base to dispose of them and the DOD knew exactly where the ashes were going. If anyone is to blame, it’s the DOD and not the AF.

By no means does this make it right, but there were alternatives that could could have been used and burial at sea is what should have been in place before all this started.
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I don't think it's all that hard to transport those remains to sea on the occasion when there are enough to warrant it.
You'd be surprised what a nightmare it is to dump bodies into the sea. It takes months if not years to arrange that. Unless it is OBL.
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