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Old 01-28-2012, 03:50 PM   #1
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I'd like to ask some of the Navy guys on here about this. How common is it to take 6 years to go from E-2 to E-3 and 6 years to go from E-3 to E-4? And did you have E-3's with eight years of service?

This is amazing to me. In the Army going from E-1 to E4 in two years is pretty much automatic and most make it quicker then that.

I'm not trying to bash anyone or turn this into a one service is better then the other thread. I just don't know much about the Navy or Coast Guard and was curious


January 27, 2012
Stars and Stripes|by Geoff Ziezulewicz

NAPLES, Italy -- Some junior enlisted sailors will have to make their next rank sooner than they do now, according to a new Navy policy announced this week.

As of July 1, changes to High Year Tenure will mean sailors at E-2 rank will have four years to make their next rank, down from six years, according to the Navy. E-3 sailors will now have five years instead of six to make E-4.

Also, for an E-3, passing the Navy-Wide Advancement Exam will no longer be enough to keep his rank for eight years, according to the Jan. 25 announcement.

As of July 1, active and full-time support E-2 and E-3 sailors with active service beyond the High Year Tenure mark will have to separate by March 31, 2013, unless advanced or waived, according to the Navy.

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That can't be active duty....can it? I work with some Navy guys from time to time and they are E-5 and E-6 with less than 10yrs in.
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DUDE, i joined in 2006 as an E-1, waited my 15 months to make E-3, made E-4 the following test cycle (one year later) then the first time i was up for E-5 i missed the test by .02 points (idiotic i know) made E-5 the second tome around (6 months later)

so over all, i made it to E-5 in 3.5 years. and now i am up for E-6 for the first time in March of this year, wish me luck!

hope this helps.

EDIT: it IS possible to stay an E-3 for 4 years, but NO LONGER than that, you will be booted out. IMHO, if you cant perform, and make the eval marks, and then just pass the tests, the military probably is not for that person. lol
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E-1 to E-2 9 months minimum, E-2 to E-3 9 months and then E-3 to E-4 6 months and the test. I came in as an E-3 And took the test 6 months and 7 days later and made E-4 I had E-5 on in March 2008 and September 2008 was my 3 year mark in...
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E-1 to E-2 9 months minimum, E-2 to E-3 9 months and then E-3 to E-4 6 months and the test. I came in as an E-3 And took the test 6 months and 7 days later and made E-4 I had E-5 on in March 2008 and September 2008 was my 3 year mark in...
bingo, thanks for getting the number straight, it feels like it's been so long, i kinda forgot how long it takes...lol

but i did this too^^^^
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bingo, thanks for getting the number straight, it feels like it's been so long, i kinda forgot how long it takes...lol

but i did this too^^^^
Where are you staioned?
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Where are you staioned?
the new naval brig in Chesapeake VA. You?
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the new naval brig in Chesapeake VA. You?
San Diego TPU...
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San Diego TPU...
Not a place I would enjoy. Lol
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Not a place I would enjoy. Lol
San Diego or the TPU? Cuz San Diego is great!
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San Diego or the TPU? Cuz San Diego is great!
LOL. San Diego would be tits!
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If you have not picked up at LEAST E-4 in 6 years, it's time to go find something else to do. I picked up First Class in 10 years, in an overmanned rate (and then promptly flatlined on promotions...go figure!)
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If you have not picked up at LEAST E-4 in 6 years, it's time to go find something else to do. I picked up First Class in 10 years, in an overmanned rate (and then promptly flatlined on promotions...go figure!)
If you havent picked up E-4 in your first enlistment they are NOT letting people re-enlist.
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If you havent picked up E-4 in your first enlistment they are NOT letting people re-enlist.
I've seen (as recently as 2009) SOME E-3's getting retained past 1st tour, but yeah, for the most part you're gone at that point.

Big Navy saw the writing on the wall years ago, that's why they started the whole PTS shit. Just got word from an old shipmate who just got bounced by the ERB...trying to get him on where I work, once he gets back. They got the ERB results, flew him off the ship into Bahrain, and is somewhere over the Atlantic right now. He said from msg reciept to his ass on the COD was 48 hours. Apparently, they don't want to take the chance he gets stuck in transit, as his bounce date is 4 DAYS before he could qual for 15 year retirement.

Damn, I'm glad I retired when I did....not the Navy I grew up in...
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If you have not picked up at LEAST E-4 in 6 years, it's time to go find something else to do. I picked up First Class in 10 years, in an overmanned rate (and then promptly flatlined on promotions...go figure!)
this...


automatic advancement up to e-3 and as long as you do your job, don't get in trouble, and study a little for the test then you can make e-4


navy times was saying the HYT change is only affecting about 800 sailors navy wide. personally, i am glad they are lowering it. i have worked with a few of these 7 year e-3's over the past few years and they are complete and utter morons...we try and try to help them advance, but they lack the performance evals to advance. they don't know anything about their job, despite doing it for the past 7 years and frankly, are just taking up space.
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I've seen (as recently as 2009) SOME E-3's getting retained past 1st tour, but yeah, for the most part you're gone at that point.

Big Navy saw the writing on the wall years ago, that's why they started the whole PTS shit. Just got word from an old shipmate who just got bounced by the ERB...trying to get him on where I work, once he gets back. They got the ERB results, flew him off the ship into Bahrain, and is somewhere over the Atlantic right now. He said from msg reciept to his ass on the COD was 48 hours. Apparently, they don't want to take the chance he gets stuck in transit, as his bounce date is 4 DAYS before he could qual for 15 year retirement.

Damn, I'm glad I retired when I did....not the Navy I grew up in...

I have a buddy who was just 10 days shy of 15. PTS approved and everything.
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I've seen (as recently as 2009) SOME E-3's getting retained past 1st tour, but yeah, for the most part you're gone at that point.

Big Navy saw the writing on the wall years ago, that's why they started the whole PTS shit. Just got word from an old shipmate who just got bounced by the ERB...trying to get him on where I work, once he gets back. They got the ERB results, flew him off the ship into Bahrain, and is somewhere over the Atlantic right now. He said from msg reciept to his ass on the COD was 48 hours. Apparently, they don't want to take the chance he gets stuck in transit, as his bounce date is 4 DAYS before he could qual for 15 year retirement.

Damn, I'm glad I retired when I did....not the Navy I grew up in...
Wow, that's rough.

I'm sure all the services are doing the same though.

The Army's Retention Control Points (as I remember) used to be:

E4 - 8 years,
E5 - 10 years
E6 - 20 years
E7 - 24 years
E8 - 26 years
E9 - 30 years

I'm not sure what they are now.
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Back in the day(71-73), I made Spec 5, E5 in just 18 months. This was at the beginning of the all volunteer Army and at the height of Vietnam.
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Back in the day(71-73), I made Spec 5, E5 in just 18 months. This was at the beginning of the all volunteer Army and at the height of Vietnam.
That's fast. It took me 6 years to make E5 and I had to change MOS's to make it. That 998 cutoff score (that never changed) in my original MOS was a real ball breaker. I wished my Recruiter had told me about cutoff scores to begin with.
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That's fast. It took me 6 years to make E5 and I had to change MOS's to make it. That 998 cutoff score (that never changed) in my original MOS was a real ball breaker. I wished my Recruiter had told me about cutoff scores to begin with.
Considering I fought the war from a mail room, the difference between making E4 or E5 for me depended on typing 25 or 35+ words per minute. I couldn't type more than 30 but my instructor gave it to me anyway....
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