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Old 10-31-2012, 11:21 AM   #1
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next gen Army IPFU

I'm not sure if its been discuss before. since there's a thread regarding the Army getting rid of the current unis, I've figure we can talk about the Army moving to a next gen IPFU. How many of you Soldiers have voted? Any comment(s) about the design that's been put up for votes?

here's the best site that I could find that shows each choice. I'm not a fan of that yellow design. From what I remember I think I voted for design#6. Commented about using a fabric like under armour, lighter in design and fast drying.

http://www.army.mil/article/88622/So...ew_PT_uniform/
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with colors that bright... I wonder if we'll all still get hit by cars unless we wear a reflective belt?

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I appreciate that the Army is reaching out for inputs but I think they are all ugly in a "this is not a fashion show" kind of way. I wish they would stop trying to "keep up with the times" and just keep it simple. I am constantly reminded of the x-million dollars the Army spent on the ACUs compared to less than a million the other branches spent (I am going off of my memory on an article I read on Army Times a while ago).
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What's wrong with the current army PT clothes? Between the Air Force and Army uniform changes over teh past 10 yrs, we probaly could have developed jet packs by now.
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What's wrong with the current army PT clothes? Between the Air Force and Army uniform changes over teh past 10 yrs, we probaly could have developed jet packs by now.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:56 PM   #6
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I can't believe your military is doing this. I know we are in the era of social media, and that everyone thinks they have a opinion that means something... but like I used to tell my troops... "We're here to defend democracy, not practice it". It's issue PT gear for CS... don't like it, too bad, put it on.

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I can't believe your military is doing this. I know we are in the era of social media, and that everyone thinks they have a opinion that means something... but like I used to tell my troops... "We're here to defend democracy, not practice it". It's issue PT gear for CS... don't like it, too bad, put it on.

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I agree, to an extent. But, when an organization reaches out to its employees (in this case the Soldiers) and solicits their opinion on something that directly effects them on a daily basis, it contributes to employee job satisfaction (if their voice is indeed heard) and gives a sense that the organization actually cares about its employees/troops.

I do agree with "....don't like it, too bad...", but that approach doesn't work all of the time. Organizations that succeed are those that are learning organizations and ones that accept change.

I could care less how the IPFU looks (within reason), as long as its functional, then I am happy. The current design could definitely be improved.
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I agree, to an extent. But, when an organization reaches out to its employees (in this case the Soldiers) and solicits their opinion on something that directly effects them on a daily basis, it contributes to employee job satisfaction (if their voice is indeed heard) and gives a sense that the organization actually cares about its employees/troops.

I do agree with "....don't like it, too bad...", but that approach doesn't work all of the time. Organizations that succeed are those that are learning organizations and ones that accept change.

I could care less how the IPFU looks (within reason), as long as its functional, then I am happy. The current design could definitely be improved.
I see your point, and can embrace the fact that organizations that do this help themselves by having they employees become invested in the organization by being able to make small decisions such as this. However I don't believe that a country's military should be treated like a private corporation, and members are soldiers, airman, etc... never employees.

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Looks strangely similar to our Air Force pt crap. The military needs ro scrap all uniforms and go to one for all. I.e. multicam and useful pt gear. End all the money wasting.
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I see your point, and can embrace the fact that organizations that do this help themselves by having they employees become invested in the organization by being able to make small decisions such as this. However I don't believe that a country's military should be treated like a private corporation, and members are soldiers, airman, etc... never employees.

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X100000 If you want your opinion to matter stay in and work your way to the top. Unil the shut the eff up do as you told and learn that way when you are in a position to have a say it is an educated one. I hate this "every soldier is a sensor" bullshit. NO do your job, pay you dues, learn then contribute. Not hard, not america, not your "right", its the army
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X100000 If you want your opinion to matter stay in and work your way to the top. Unil the shut the eff up do as you told and learn that way when you are in a position to have a say it is an educated one. I hate this "every soldier is a sensor" bullshit. NO do your job, pay you dues, learn then contribute. Not hard, not america, not your "right", its the army
The "top" are the ones asking Soldiers opinions and what they want. They obviously don't have the right answer so they are curious as to what everyday Joe wants, probably in hopes to not unnecessarily spend money we can't afford to waste, i.e. ACU shananigans.

The "top" has been in much longer than you and I combined I am sure. "....do as you told and learn that way" is a mentality of an Army that existed when the "top" probably first joined the Army (Vietnam era). Why don't we operate that way now if our current leaders (the "top") were brought up that way? Maybe because it was ineffective or could not be applied to every situation?

"...do your job, pay your dues, learn then contribute". Couldn't agree with you more.

This following question doesn't require a response, but what did you think about the beret when the whole Army put it on? How about when we switched back? Please keep in mind that this example of the beret directly relates to the argument at hand (Solely the decision of the "top" vs. when Soldiers are included in the decision making process)

I am assuming that you are at the contributing level based on your previous statement of "...do your job, pay your dues, learn then contribute", so that is why I ask what you think about the beret business.
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X100000 If you want your opinion to matter stay in and work your way to the top. Unil the shut the eff up do as you told and learn that way when you are in a position to have a say it is an educated one. I hate this "every soldier is a sensor" bullshit. NO do your job, pay you dues, learn then contribute. Not hard, not america, not your "right", its the army


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I voted for Design #1 with the black shirts (yellow "ARMY") and the short to say "ARMY" as opposed to the Army star,

If I recall correctly, there is more going into the change of the IPFU than just the looks. I think they are trying to keep up with products like Under Armour - making the tops "moisture wicking" and "anti-microbial". I assume the PT shorts will stay the same. I personally like them a lot and wouldn't change the shorts. I prefer Under Armour shirts, so that would be a welcome change.
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I think it's all a waste of money. Go back to the old sweats and wear the tan ACU undershirt as the shirt. Saves money, I'm tired of this stupid spending on crap that "looks cool".
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I think it's all a waste of money. Go back to the old sweats and wear the tan ACU undershirt as the shirt. Saves money, I'm tired of this stupid spending on crap that "looks cool".
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I voted for Design #1 with the black shirts (yellow "ARMY") and the short to say "ARMY" as opposed to the Army star,

If I recall correctly, there is more going into the change of the IPFU than just the looks. I think they are trying to keep up with products like Under Armour - making the tops "moisture wicking" and "anti-microbial". I assume the PT shorts will stay the same. I personally like them a lot and wouldn't change the shorts. I prefer Under Armour shirts, so that would be a welcome change.


I voted the same, use black with a little yellow would look cool. Doubt it will happen but oh well.
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i vote we just keep the ones we have already, they arnt that old to begin with. all the army is doing is looking for another way to just piss away money. just like the new PT test. is the benefit really outweighing the millions of dollars going into this dumb shit?
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Keep the current ones???? WTF, have you ever worn the shirt, or should I say weighted vest. It weighs at least 3x that of a normal shirt, and breathes about the same. Worst shirt ever. I wouldn't wear that shirt on a normal occasion, much less to work out.

The marines have it the best. Light undershirt and soffee shorts.

With all that said, I don't care what they do, I don't wear the pt uniform, so they could put a giant pink gorilla sucking off a unicorn for all I care.

The only reason they try to make it "look good" is so you'll wear it when you aren't required too. I.E. going out in public. Free publicity/advertisement. You might not know it, but a nice looking uniform impresses. Wether it's a chick you're looking to hook-up with, a little ten year old kid, or that HS graduate who is looking for his next move. That uniform is going to influence two of those people, and three if you're not weaksauce.
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I think they should bring back the banana suit along with that double cotton reversible black and gold t-shirt.

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