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Old 05-19-2013, 10:32 PM   #1
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suppressors in the military?

I was watching combat footage on youtube the other day and the snipers and a few guys with M4's had suppressors, is this normal? i can see the point of being suppressed, but IMO they're sorta expensive for what they are.

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I was watching combat footage on youtube the other day and the snipers and a few guys with M4's had suppressors, is this normal? i can see the point of being suppressed, but IMO they're sorta expensive for what they are.

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I can buy another truck for the cost of a set of SF night eyes, supressors are cheap in comparison

Supressors are getting more popular now, from what I've heard
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I can buy another truck for the cost of a set of SF night eyes, supressors are cheap in comparison

Supressors are getting more popular now, from what I've heard
holy crud, never heard of the night eyes before.

interesting, i wonder what differences they see? i've never shot a suppressed weapon before.
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i've never shot a suppressed weapon before.
AR15 sounds like a 10/22
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AR15 sounds like a 10/22
sub or supersonic?
When i move (next year ) and i'm 18 i'm gonna set up a trust, and send off 2 form 1's ( 1 for a SBR and 1 for a suppressor) and build a suppressed 300 BLK SBR for a hunting gun.
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sub or supersonic?
From the shooter's standpoint.
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From the shooter's standpoint.
cool, was the AR chambered in 223?
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sub or supersonic?
When i move (next year ) and i'm 18 i'm gonna set up a trust, and send off 2 form 1's ( 1 for a SBR and 1 for a suppressor) and build a suppressed 300 BLK SBR for a hunting gun.
I recommend checking your local hunting laws. For whatever reason, in the four states I've lived in, suppressors were not allowed for hunting purposes.
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I recommend checking your local hunting laws. For whatever reason, in the four states I've lived in, suppressors were not allowed for hunting purposes.
Thanks for the heads up, on the MDWFP website it says its legal for all game animals
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Thanks for the heads up, on the MDWFP website it says its legal for all game animals
Awesome! Never made sense to me why I shouldn't be allowed to put a suppressor on a hunting rifle...
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Awesome! Never made sense to me why I shouldn't be allowed to put a suppressor on a hunting rifle...
Exactly!!! If I do this build my grandpa is gonna be on the trust so he can hunt without getting more hearing damage.
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You do realize that even with a trust, you can not even possess a silencer in California?

Silencer, SBR, SBS, and automatic require a California DOJ "Dangerous Weapons Permit" and the BATFE will not issue the NFA stamp without that.
The DWP was created to skirt the law... there is a legal path to own NFA items in California, but if you are non-LEO, the DOJ will not issue.

You CAN form a trust to have an AOW (some of which look suspiciously like SBS), and no DWP is required.
And under Federal law, you need to be 21 for AOW. I'm not even sure you can be on an NFA trust of any kind.
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All our designated marksmen rifles were suppressed, but not everyone's. The expense is even less when only a few people get a DM rifle and only in country.
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You do realize that even with a trust, you can not even possess a silencer in California?

Silencer, SBR, SBS, and automatic require a California DOJ "Dangerous Weapons Permit" and the BATFE will not issue the NFA stamp without that.
The DWP was created to skirt the law... there is a legal path to own NFA items in California, but if you are non-LEO, the DOJ will not issue.

You CAN form a trust to have an AOW (some of which look suspiciously like SBS), and no DWP is required.
And under Federal law, you need to be 21 for AOW. I'm not even sure you can be on an NFA trust of any kind.
yep, i'm moving next year and i'm doing all my research now, so i can get my stuff ASAP.

i hope i can be on a trust at 18, it'd be stupid for it to be illegal, yet i can build a suppressor (and SBR) at 18.
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yep, i'm moving next year and i'm doing all my research now, so i can get my stuff ASAP.

i hope i can be on a trust at 18, it'd be stupid for it to be illegal, yet i can build a suppressor (and SBR) at 18.
Building an AR, whether 16" or SBR, is touchy.
The 4473 on a stripped lower is designated "Other", and you have to be 21 to buy anything other than a "rifle".

The rifle designation includes shotguns with shoulder stocks, but not cruisers.

Even in a free state, you can't legally purchase a stripped lower, though your dad or grandfather can give you one.
You CAN purchase a completed AR, then replace the upper with a shorty.
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you watch this video? 3:00 mark for some supressed ass whoopin

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All our designated marksmen rifles were suppressed, but not everyone's. The expense is even less when only a few people get a DM rifle and only in country.
Did they have them for less signature? faster follow up shots?
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Building an AR, whether 16" or SBR, is touchy.
The 4473 on a stripped lower is designated "Other", and you have to be 21 to buy anything other than a "rifle".

The rifle designation includes shotguns with shoulder stocks, but not cruisers.

Even in a free state, you can't legally purchase a stripped lower, though your dad or grandfather can give you one.
You CAN purchase a completed AR, then replace the upper with a shorty.
yeah, but as you mentioned dad could gift me one when i'm 18.
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you watch this video? 3:00 mark for some supressed ass whoopin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNNg5V8OfDk
nope, hadn't seen it.
there were quite a few suppressors in that video.
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