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Old 06-12-2009, 01:43 PM   #1
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Mandatory Military service

What are your opinions on mandatory military service? 27 countries to be exact require their male citizens to serve a minimum time in the military and I am interested in your views are on the subject.

Personally I think it is a great policy. There are so many things the military offers to shaping the character of young adults that I believe every American should be required to serve at least 18 months.

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I think everybody should serve.

Even the tree huggers should do there part. Sign them up.
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Old 06-12-2009, 01:51 PM   #5
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Horrible Idea...I have to deal with too many people who don't want to do their jobs and they volunteered to be there- They make my work hard enough.

Making everyone do it would make that problem MUCH worse....not to mention the expense of it....Accession, Basic/Advanced Training-Then housing and pay and medical, and finally release training....Not worth it.
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No.

I feel that with a volunteer military like we have now, most of the people are in because they WANT to be in, so they'll do their best while there.

If it was mandatory, think about the type of people you'll be next to.

You'll have dorks next to football players next to emo fucks. I don't know about you, but if I was in a combat situation, I want to be next to people that WANT to be in the military rather than ones that were forced to.
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BAD IDEA..

WE have the greatest military in the world. An all volunteer force is the best way to achieve maximum readiness and moral. Granted every soldier since the Roman empire has the right to bitch but ours is filled with soldiers that WANT to serve.
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well....kind of a mixed answer from me. i think all should serve, but the ones that are truly lazy and would risk messing up stuff shouldnt. i wasnt able to get in because of my hearing and past bone breaks, although i tried like hell. i wanted to go into the army and try to get to ranger status so bad, but wasnt able to.
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what about just straight up civil service. Maybe not military but what about mandatory highway clean up and park restoration for like 1 weekend a month?
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:04 PM   #10
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what about just straight up civil service. Maybe not military but what about mandatory highway clean up and park restoration for like 1 weekend a month?
I would be ALL for that...It's easy to flog people into doing unskilled/manual labor.

Do the year between age 18-19...or an equivalent amount of time. It'd be great.
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Personally I think it is a great policy. There are so many things the military offers to shaping the character of young adults.
I agree....

It'd be neat to see kids in high school go into the military as part of their graduation process.

Although, that might be a little harsh on some of the kids who already have 'good character' and are working towards college.

The 'bad character' kids need the discipline. Wonder how they could force those 'problem kids' into the military. Where do you draw the line for 'problematic' and not?

But then again - the military won't want to waste time training people who won't want a future there. They won't wanna babysit either.
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I would be ALL for that...It's easy to flog people into doing unskilled/manual labor.

Do the year between age 18-19...or an equivalent amount of time. It'd be great.
Personally I think that would help get people active in their communties and it would also make the community shine as well.
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EVERYBODY should owe time. The girls can offer time state side in the local communities. Graduate high school, serve 1-2 years, then private sector, college, whatever.
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Just personally I am sick of people bitching and moaning who have never contributed a thing other than tax dollars to the country. I will quote a line from one of my favorite bands

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I mean obviously the people that want to serve will strive to enter the most prestigious position in the military they can attain. Those who don't want to be there can take civilian support roles with the army
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I'm thinking a mandatory 2 years would be ideal...

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Personally I think it is a great policy. There are so many things the military offers to shaping the character of young adults
My father, who was a Army Staff Sargent in Vietnam that has suffered from PTSD, and has cancer, most likely from Agent Orange exposure, would beg to differ. Whenever recruiters would call my house when I was in high school, he would get on the phone, and tell them that he served our country so that I didn't have to. I didn't need Uncle Sam to shape my character so that I was successful in life
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I don't think it should be mandatory. Neither do the services. The problem with mandatory is that you get people who don't want to be there whereas an all volunteer force is more motivated because they chose to do it. Ultimately, the purpose of the military is to defend the nation not change people's characters. It's a side effect, but making it mandatory takes away from the military's mission.
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My father, who was a Army Staff Sargent in Vietnam that has suffered from PTSD, and has cancer, most likely from Agent Orange exposure, would beg to differ. Whenever recruiters would call my house when I was in high school, he would get on the phone, and tell them that he served our country so that I didn't have to. I didn't need Uncle Sam to shape my character so that I was successful in life
Your father would probably beg to differ- but it is true. It's not for everyone and it shouldn't be mandatory- but there is a LOT of training and opportunities to be had in the military.

No one and not everyone needs the gov't to do it...but it is out there.
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Your father would probably beg to differ- but it is true. It's not for everyone and it shouldn't be mandatory- but there is a LOT of training and opportunities to be had in the military.

No one and not everyone needs the gov't to do it...but it is out there.
I am not saying that everyone has to join as infantry. Plus I figured it would work itself out because the people who don't want to do it won't be busting their asses to advance, while the people who want to would be.

When I was speaking to the recruiter about roles where I would get to use arabic, he went over some civilian assistance jobs. Basically soldiers come in after war, or disasters with aid, food, water, medical treatment etc.

I am sure this crowd is well aware of this fact, but not every job in the military involves fighting. I fail to see where someone could not fit in a specific niche
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I don't think it should be mandatory. The problem with mandatory is that you get people who don't want to be there.
Exactly...

And the way the economy is right now, from what I've heard....a lot of jobless people are flocking to enlist. The military has cracked down on enlistment requirements so its harder to get in.

A guy I work with who is 29 years old tried to enlist and didn't get accepted.
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