1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Yamaha R6. Good for beginner?

Discussion in 'Motorcycles' started by toy02ota, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:08 AM
    #1
    toy02ota

    toy02ota [OP] Local TW dissenter

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Member:
    #31439
    Messages:
    1,056
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Brownsville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2005 Chevy Silverado
    I'm looking at getting a bike in the near future. I found a Yamaha R6 for a pretty decent deal local. Would the R6 be too much bike to start with? I found a Ninja 250 but hell I'd be wanting to upgrade within a couple of months I'm sure. What is yalls input?
     
  2. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:10 AM
    #2
    Brunes

    Brunes abides.

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Member:
    #7011
    Messages:
    17,562
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rotorhead
    Around
    Vehicle:
    08 Red/Graphite and Satin Black
    Inside: Tint, Wet Okole 1/2 Piped Red/Black Covers, Black Weathertech Digital Fit Mats, URD Short Throw w/ TWM Weighted Knob, USA Spec iPod adapter. Outside: 4300K Retro w/ Angel Eyes and Red Shrouds, 5000K Blazer Fog Light Retrofit, Debadge, Bed Locking Handle, Satin Black Rims Performance: TRD/Steigmeier Blower w/ 2.7 Pulley. 668 Injectors and 320 LPH AEM Fuel pump. URD UCON and 7th Injector. DTLT Headers, URD Y-Pipe, Wicked Flow Muffler. Suspension: Both: OME Shocks Front: 886X's and TC UCAs Rear: Dakars Armor: Relentless Front Bumper Relentless High Clearance Rear w/ Tire/Rotopax Swing Out Relentless Front, Mid, and TCase skids BAMF Diff Skid Recovery and Spares: Fullsize Spare Tire 2x2 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Water Rotopax Warn 9.5XP-S Winch Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Ironman Off-Road Recovery Kit
    Keep in mind that you very likely WILL kill yourself VERY easily if you make mistakes on a 600CC bike and smaller errors can turn out alot worse. A 250 is a bit more forgiving.

    But that said- I watched a chick I hung out with learn on a 600 and I only rode a 250 a few times before I got my 600. So it's doable as long as you respect the ride.
     
  3. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:15 AM
    #3
    m0nster986

    m0nster986 ♥ Emergency Medicine

    Joined:
    May 25, 2010
    Member:
    #37794
    Messages:
    342
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    I started out on a 600 despite what I've heard/ read. Just keep it mature and you shall be fine.

    DSC_1916.jpg
     
  4. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:18 AM
    #4
    NumNutz

    NumNutz One of the original 7928

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Member:
    #7928
    Messages:
    4,899
    Gender:
    Male
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Vehicle:
    07 Tacoma 4x4 - Kings, TC, Dakars, broken stuff
    Lots.
    I am riding my 500cc this year and I'll sell it to buy a 600cc. I have no complaints about buying a 500cc first. Suzuki GS500F. Looks like a sport bike. It's cheap, easy to fix, and in a year when you're ready go buy your 600.

    That's my GS500F in my sig (yes it pops wheelies... in a parking lot)
     
  5. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:21 AM
    #5
    NumNutz

    NumNutz One of the original 7928

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Member:
    #7928
    Messages:
    4,899
    Gender:
    Male
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Vehicle:
    07 Tacoma 4x4 - Kings, TC, Dakars, broken stuff
    Lots.
    What the fuck is that thing lol? A coke can at the bottom. Some dish soap in a bottle.

    I'm sure they both have their functions lol
     
  6. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:22 AM
    #6
    davidpick

    davidpick NWXPDTN

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Member:
    #29760
    Messages:
    2,380
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Leavenworth, WA
    Vehicle:
    1988 Pickup 22R 5sp 2wd
    Weber 32/36, RV Cam, LCE exhaust headers, Desmogged
    it's all about control & maturity. even the biggest bike can be easily ridden when you exercise restraint with the right wrist!

    the reason to start with a 250 is that it's not going to have the ungodly acceleration that even a 600cc sportbike (read: racebike) has, so if you make a mistake it's not going to try to kill you... as much.

    my first bike was a suzuki sv650 (loved it, but sold it to get my tacoma! :) ) and it was, in my opinion, the perfect starter bike. tons of torque from the v-twin engine so that was lots of fun but it wasn't as fast as a full-on inline-4 sportbike. i now have a gsx-r600 and i'm really glad i had the sv650 first.

    basically it comes down to how mature you are and general motorcycling ability.

    take the MSF course!! no excuses! :)

    rubber side down!
     
  7. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:22 AM
    #7
    teamfast

    teamfast Get busy living, or get busy dying.

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2010
    Member:
    #39840
    Messages:
    925
    Gender:
    Male
    Winnipeg, Manitoba
    Vehicle:
    '10 DCLB
    BFG AT TKO2s 34 x 10.5 x17, Leer 550 Tonneau cover, weather tech digi fit liners, Viper 5901 remote start/security, 2" fr spacer, 3" TC AAL, All Pro IFS skid plate, Trans skid plate & Transfer Case skid plate, 12" roof mounted flip down dvd player, In channel vent visors.
    if you have ridden dirt bikes before Ill say do the 600 first. If your clueless with a manual transmission then youll prob want to start in the dirt first. Be responsible and you wont die. Youtube "motorcycle idiot" and don't try anything you see.
     
  8. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:23 AM
    #8
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    38,445
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '19 Ford F-250 6.7 SCrew
    F-250 Land Yacht Mod
    I'd start with a smaller bike first, or at least not a 600cc race bike. The 500 that Numnuts mentioned is a great compromise for a starter bike. It's decent size, handles well and you won't get bored of it quickly like a 250. If you're set on a 600, I'd start with a Katana or something similar. The race bikes are more high strung and a lot less forgiving if you make a mistake.
     
  9. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:25 AM
    #9
    hookedontronics

    hookedontronics Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2010
    Member:
    #28863
    Messages:
    2,780
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jake
    Glenville, NY
    Vehicle:
    2010 DC Off Road 4x4
    Icon extended travel 3.5" front coilovers, DSM UCAs, TSB leaf pack w/ wheelers AAL, All Pro U-bolt flip kit, Walker Evans 2.0 rear shocks, 18" XD Monster rims, Nitto trail grappler 285/65R18 Tires, Color matched grill, Grillcraft, Kragen HIDs, Carling switches, my bed light mod, diff drop, Alpine IVA-W505, JL Audio C5 componets and coaxials, JL 300/4 and 250/1 amps and JL stealthbox, wheathertechs, avs vent visors, toyota bed x-tender, alcantara center console cover and door pocket covers, console vault, color matched mirrors, heated mirrors, etc etc etc
    i have an r6 and idk if i'd recommend a 600 or larger to start with. All my friends and i started on enduro bikes. I had a bmw f650gs dakar. Everyone else i know who bought a 600 or larger without starting small has wrecked. I would recommend starting with a 250 or a 400 supermotot or something similar. 600 is a lotta bike for someone with no experience. Dirt bike experience and street bike experience are not the same, that's very important to know
     
  10. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:26 AM
    #10
    Jigzor

    Jigzor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2009
    Member:
    #17413
    Messages:
    3,072
    Gender:
    Male
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    20 Gladiator Rubicon
    Steersmarts Draglink, Tie rod, Track Bar
    I started on a 600 as well. I never knew how to ride and I did fine. In the 2 years I owned the bike I never dumped it, but I also took the safety course. Just respect the power.

    Helpful hint, position your throttle wrist so you can't get nervous and grab a whole lot of power.
     
  11. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:29 AM
    #11
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    38,445
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '19 Ford F-250 6.7 SCrew
    F-250 Land Yacht Mod
    Little off topic but how'd you like the dakar? Will it hold highway speed comfortably (70+ mph)?
     
  12. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:31 AM
    #12
    hookedontronics

    hookedontronics Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2010
    Member:
    #28863
    Messages:
    2,780
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jake
    Glenville, NY
    Vehicle:
    2010 DC Off Road 4x4
    Icon extended travel 3.5" front coilovers, DSM UCAs, TSB leaf pack w/ wheelers AAL, All Pro U-bolt flip kit, Walker Evans 2.0 rear shocks, 18" XD Monster rims, Nitto trail grappler 285/65R18 Tires, Color matched grill, Grillcraft, Kragen HIDs, Carling switches, my bed light mod, diff drop, Alpine IVA-W505, JL Audio C5 componets and coaxials, JL 300/4 and 250/1 amps and JL stealthbox, wheathertechs, avs vent visors, toyota bed x-tender, alcantara center console cover and door pocket covers, console vault, color matched mirrors, heated mirrors, etc etc etc
    I had it wil stock gearing at it would do 115 with me on it (155lb).
    I then had it re-geared to give it a little more pep at lower speeds and it would still do 110mph, holds highway speeds just fine.
     
  13. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:33 AM
    #13
    Simon's Mom

    Simon's Mom Wag More Bark Less

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2007
    Member:
    #1297
    Messages:
    10,191
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Judy or Jude :)
    NEK Island Pond VT
    Vehicle:
    24 Tundra Trd Sport former 13 TRD OR
    Stock for now
    Whats the insurance run besides the buying price?
    That is a lot of HP but you will get a lot of opinions here....the Beginners MSF start you out on smaller bikes for a reason.
    In the end, you might be fine or not. I started on a 250 on/off enduro & moved up.
    The biggest thing is throttle control and driving defensively. Not many mistakes you can make its a fine line.......better to start off and gain your confidence gradually minimizing the risk.
     
  14. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:34 AM
    #14
    bajamoon

    bajamoon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2009
    Member:
    #13269
    Messages:
    5,945
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    STEVE
    Whittier
    if you have riden dirt bikes for awhile i would say go for the 600 but don't be a dumbass with the throtle. If no dirt bike experiance go with a 500.
     
  15. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM
    #15
    toy02ota

    toy02ota [OP] Local TW dissenter

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Member:
    #31439
    Messages:
    1,056
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Brownsville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2005 Chevy Silverado
    I have rode dirt bikes and atvs a good bit. I'm not clueless as it comes to manual trans :eek:. I will probably wait and try to find a 500. Because I don't want a 250 that I'll be bored with within a couple of months. But at the same time I don't want to get scraped up either :eek:. I am going to take the safety course for sure. Thanks for the insight guys :D
     
  16. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM
    #16
    Tacomadude89

    Tacomadude89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2010
    Member:
    #30859
    Messages:
    1,496
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Austen
    Sounds like you're making the right decisions.:cool:
     
  17. Sep 27, 2010 at 11:02 AM
    #17
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    38,445
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '19 Ford F-250 6.7 SCrew
    F-250 Land Yacht Mod
    :thumbsup:
     
  18. Sep 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM
    #18
    GerhartCss

    GerhartCss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Member:
    #29135
    Messages:
    108
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Harrisburg, PA
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD Sport
    Pioneer AVIC-X710BT w/ PAC SWI-PS, Leaf Spring TSB
    Another +1 for the sv650. I have had one for the last two years and it was first motorized bike of any kind. Enough power to handle highway speeds but much more forgiving than a 600. Also have the option of the naked or S version depending if your looking for the SS look. Check out svrider.com for more info on them.
     
  19. Sep 27, 2010 at 11:23 AM
    #19
    all.on.black

    all.on.black Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2008
    Member:
    #4066
    Messages:
    1,516
    Gender:
    Male
    Auburn, WA
    Vehicle:
    06 Double Cab Sport with a few mods
    I learned on an R1 and have been riding for 5 years. If you understand the concept of a manual transmission and can control your wrist then you'll be fine on a 600. Only reason the 250 would be easier is because it's lighter and you sit up straight. The 250 has less horsepower but on a R6 you don't really get into the power band until you get past 8k rpms. Keep it below that and it'll be like riding a 250.
     
  20. Sep 27, 2010 at 11:30 AM
    #20
    barlowrs

    barlowrs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2010
    Member:
    #31230
    Messages:
    612
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Robert
    So Cal
    Vehicle:
    06 Toyota Tacoma Sport 4x4
    Build Thread: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/builds/74926-barlowrs-06-taco-expo-build-thread.html OME Lift, FJ SE Wheels, 255/85 KM2, Allpro Plate Bumper, 8K Winch, Synthetic Line, Yaesu FT-8800R, Custom Sliders Sockmonkey bedside decals, BHLM, base model grille, TRD offroad (black) trim
    What year is it that you are looking for? Early years had a lot more linear power curve which is easier to learn on. New years are very non linear. For example, on my curent race bike (07 R6) I MUSt keep the RPM up above 10K to be in teh powerband, before that I cannot pull out of turns quick enough. A older year will be easier to learn on becuase there is no "suprise pwer" that will sneak up on you like the new models.


    All the same, if you have NEVER ridden a bike before, i would not suggest a 600. They are still beasts. For a first bike, I would suggest getting and SV or something similar...make sure to get a USED one becuase you WILLLLLLL drop it, and you will break it. Dont waste your money on a new one.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top