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Old 08-13-2012, 06:45 PM   #41
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probaby during normal business hours. 9-5? just checked both reps websites and couldnt find any hours just numbers for SBD county
No worries I might just fax them today so i can get everything down without forgetting on the phone. Assuming we can only call once a day?
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From what it sounds like the reps dont want to see it going into the bases hands either. but it doesnt hurt to have the peoples support
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:01 PM   #46
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Johnson Valley OHV Area
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ISSUE: Marine Corps plans to acquire 160,000 acres of BLM land next to Marine Corps Ground Air Combat Center (MCGACC) Twenty Nine Palms eliminates most of the land available under the California Desert Conservation Plan (1980) available for to off highway (OHV) recreation impacting OHV activity and the local and national economy.

Johnson Valley OHV recreation area is 189,700 acres that develops at least 300,000 visitor days per year and is world renowned as an OHV recreation area..

Economic impact: BLM estimates $71.5 million annually into the local economy and $191.2 Million into the national economy.

USMC has a new requirement for MEB level maneuver training and intends to acquire 160,000 acres of this the land from BLM and conduct live fire on all but 40,000 acres - permanently closing access to 120,000 acres.

Local authorities and State authorities and thousands of citizens are opposed to the transfer of this land.

USMC is well into the EIS process and could issue a Record of decision as early as this summer.

Options other than those in the Draft EIS need to be considered:
Permitted use of land from BLM (like at other BLM sites used for training)
Other BLM land in the region (not necessarily adjacent).

More time needed for deliberation and seeking options on both sides and with the State.
Not urgent since Marines have been deploying to combat for 10 years without this extra range - should have more time to seek a broader solution set.
Once live fire starts the land is permanently lost. We need to find accommodation for OHV needs and that will require BLM and State officials.

The US House of Representatives passed an Amendment to the Fiscal Year 2013 National Defense Authorization Act that requires, prior to transfer, the Secretary of the Navy to provide a report on the new Marine requirement for this land and on the economic impact and on other potential solutions to the elimination of recreational land.

In spite of this Congressional interest, the Secretary of the Navy just entered the final Environmental Impact Statement into the Federal Register and can now within a short time announce his "Record of Decision" to acquire this land.


The intent of the House of Representatives was to slow this down to have a better look at it. The Navy has run roughshod over the House and ignored their intent. The House should be angry. We are.


Please call the Secretary of the Navy and tell him to stop this provcess until all the stakeholders - including federal legislators - have had their voices heard.


If the Marines went through 10 years of war without this extra land, it surely could wait a few months until all interests could be accommodated.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:11 PM   #48
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all these views and not that many posts. if you like any kind of offroading/camping/hiking/exploring show your support!
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:15 PM   #49
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just sent a fax. its hard to call a politician sitting right next to my manager haha
I hear you, man. I called and left my message, but I'm going to fax and leave a more constructed message that way. Just my little camping trip there was awesome. I roamed around a little and saw that theres so much to enjoy- and I saw very little of what there was to be seen. If Ocotillo were to close too, I'd have no reason...

Somebody hold me...
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:15 PM   #50
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Is there a petition going around you can sign?
there was a petition campaign a year and a half ago ( there were different phases into save johnson valley)..tens of thousands of letters were supposed to be turned into a Navy office in san diego by a certain time, and they were all supposed to be delivered all at once ..turns out that the Navy themselves gave the wrong address and they were never delivered on time. calling each Representative is the last phase.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:30 PM   #52
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yea its not just O/R thats in at stake.

the desert is more than just a bombing range!
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:33 PM   #53
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yea its not just O/R thats in at stake.

the desert is more than just a bombing range!
thats what we have Afghanistan for! lol jk. But seriously China lake is really close we fly our planes out there for weapons testing all the time! why cant we use that?
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Because ground forces can't maneuver on a bombing range. UXO sucks.

That's also why if the USMC takes the land the public will never see it again, even if they don't use it for more than a few years.
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yea its not just O/R thats in at stake.

the desert is more than just a bombing range!
the boy scouts will loose a premium camping area and facility , star gazers/astronomers, amateur rocketeers will also loose a dry lake bed or two that they use for their model rockets. the pending closure will affect more then just the off road community
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someone should local and national knoos.
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they already have yuma proving ground right? wtf
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Im super stoked for all the responses that have appeared already in just a few hours!!!!!!!
Its the efforts and people like all of you on T.W. that help to keep our deserts open.
I want to thank all of you for speaking up.
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