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Old 01-17-2009, 08:22 AM   #1
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Wheelin Terrain & culture

There's soo many different variations of offroading across the world/country - it'd be nice to get an idea of what types of offroading everyone is doing and what/how you build your rigs for it. What types of cultures do you have in your area of offroading? ETC. Answer the questions below and if you have pictures - post 'em. This is all about the terrain. If you wheel something other than your tacoma, your input still applies!! Post it!! 4Wheeled vehicles only please (no ATV experience). Please - no debating on why or what people do. If you have questions - feel free. Just make a note to understand each others culture.
We don't need to know personal reasons why you answer the questions the way you do. Your reasons & thoughts aren't up for debate.This is strictly a list of information for everyone to read.
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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? (no details please)

Do you wheel at an offroad park? (yes or no)

What type of terrain is it? (this can be a long answer if needed)

How often do you go offroad?
*** If you don't wheel very often, is it because there's not a lot of areas to wheel or that you have to travel too far? (Keep it geographic)
*** If you wheel a lot - do you have a lot of trails available to you? (keep it geographic)

Do you wheel with an offroad club?

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? (yes or no)
If yes - what are the trail ratings?

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? (in other words, what's the lowest vehicle requirement you'd expect someone to have to go offroad with you)

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? (you know the ones.... basic description)

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? (list modifications only please)

If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? (list modifications only please)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out?

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? (yes, no, or somewhat)

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you?

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? (could be lengthy if needed....)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out?

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? (basic list please)

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad?

What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people?

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading?

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading?

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)?

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced?

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience?

Additional Comments if needed (and don't forget pictures).

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Sorry this is so lengthy, but I just jotted down everything that was in my mind of things I'd be curious to know about and how we can learn from each others different types of wheelin.
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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? (no details please)
South/Central PA

Do you wheel at an offroad park? (yes or no)
YES

What type of terrain is it? (this can be a long answer if needed)
Wooded areas, dirt/mud/lots of rocks, hill climbs, not many truely flat areas


It used to be twice a month but now it's a few times a year
*** If you don't wheel very often, is it because there's not a lot of areas to wheel or that you have to travel too far? (Keep it geographic)
Neither - personal reasons
*** If you wheel a lot - do you have a lot of trails available to you? (keep it geographic)

Do you wheel with an offroad club?
YES

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? (yes or no) YES
If yes - what are the trail ratings?
Green (easiest), blue, black, red (Xtreme)

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? (in other words, what's the lowest vehicle requirement you'd expect someone to have to go offroad with you)
4WD and 4lo preferred. Stock vehicles that meet the offroad park minimum requirements

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? (you know the ones.... basic description)
Competition buggies

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? (list modifications only please)
Rock sliders

If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? (list modifications only please)
Lift, bigger tires, lockers, skid plating, winch, stronger axles, rollcage, Atlas t-case, (not necessarily in that order)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out?
4lo is highly recommended, drive slowly, pay attention, ask for a spotter to help, don't be afraid

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? (yes, no, or somewhat) YES

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you?
Respecting people & the land and everything that goes along with that (see below answer) Tread Lightly

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? (could be lengthy if needed....)
Don't wheel alone, no drinking driving, no alcohol on the trails, always wear seatbelts (also see below answers)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out?
Stay on designated trails, no littering

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? (basic list please)
I wheel a jeep - lift, bigger tires, bigger axles, lockers, skid plating, rollcage, etc

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad?
End-over-end roll

What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people?
Many different types of rolls/flops

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading?
Other than safety- I don't like to break anything.

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading?
I don't like to see people getting hurt

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)?
Never wheel alone

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced?
Other than dents & such - twisted splines, bent axle flange, & bent wheel all at once

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience?
Broken u-joints (pair) & broken diff gears all at once

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Easy (Green) Trails
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Moderate (blue) Trails
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Moderate (black) Trails
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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? (no details please)AZ

Do you wheel at an offroad park? (yes or no)NO

What type of terrain is it? (this can be a long answer if needed)Desert

How often do you go offroad? I off road a lot partially just to get where I need to go, plus with all this public land it would be a crime not to

Do you wheel with an offroad club?No

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? (yes or no)
If yes - what are the trail ratings? Nope

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? (in other words, what's the lowest vehicle requirement you'd expect someone to have to go offroad with you)Well i've off roadified (it's a word look it up) a pontiac vibe.... it all depends where you are and what line you take

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? (you know the ones.... basic description) usually full size lifted (3"-6") 4x4's

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? (list modifications only please)
  1. better tires
  2. lockers
  3. a small lift

If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? (list modifications only please)
  • sliders
  • winch

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out? DON'T SLOW DOWN!

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? (yes, no, or somewhat)Yes

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you?
knowing who has right of way, leave it better than you found it

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? (could be lengthy if needed....)
Clean up your trash!!!!!

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out?
leave it better than you found it

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? (basic list please)
for offroading nearly nothing

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad?
half way into a creek i realized i probally should be crossing it.... it got a little bumpy when i gunned it realizing how deep it was
What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people?
3/4 ton dodge frame deep in mud
What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading?
breaking something
Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading?
ummm don't rollover?
What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)?
don't do what you're not sure of
What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced?
Probally just a mudflap
What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience?
I'd have to think about that.... nothing too bad

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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? (no details please)
SC, NC, GA, TN, KY
Do you wheel at an offroad park? (yes or no)
Yes
What type of terrain is it? (this can be a long answer if needed)
Everything from rocks to mud to loose dirt to red clay
How often do you go offroad?
*** If you don't wheel very often, is it because there's not a lot of areas to wheel or that you have to travel too far? (Keep it geographic)
*** If you wheel a lot - do you have a lot of trails available to you? (keep it geographic)
I wheel as often as I can afford to, but since its always an overnight trip for me, that doesnt tend to be very often

Do you wheel with an offroad club?
Most of the time, but when i go to the "local" park its usually just with some friends

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? (yes or no)
If yes - what are the trail ratings?
Ive been exposed to several different ones
Tellico of course has
-Easy
-Moderate
-Difficult
-Most Difficult

Gulches has
-Easy
-Moderate
-Difficult
-Most Difficult
-Skull and Crossbones


What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? (in other words, what's the lowest vehicle requirement you'd expect someone to have to go offroad with you)

Some sort of AT or MT (pref MT) tires, recovery points

Advised is at least mild armor and some sort of lift as well, but not required

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? (you know the ones.... basic description)

I regularly wheel with several WEROCK competition buggiesand several jeeps built almost as much

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? (list modifications only please)

Lift and MTs
then armor

If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? (list modifications only please)

More lift, more armor, bigger tires

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out?

I like to teach them the basics of tire placement as that is a HUGE thing in keeping rigs from going over...then recovery points...I should spend more time on Tread Lightly instruction...but I tend to discuss that as issues pop up

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? (yes, no, or somewhat)

Yes

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you?

Tread lightly and help out anyone that needs it (within reason and capabilities)

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? (could be lengthy if needed....)

I rarely encounter issues with trail etiquette as the most local park is mostly the same groups of people every time and everyone knows everyone and is glad to help someone else as need be

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out?

Dont act like an asshole, help out someone if you can

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? (basic list please)

Bumpers, Sliders, Skids, upgraded suspension, big MT tires

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad?

dropped the front drivers tire into a rut and threw my rear passenger tire in the air...took 3 guys on my rear bumper to keep me from flopping

What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people?

I've seen several rigs flop and roll but never anything like going over a cliff.

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading?

People standing too close to a rig when it flops

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading?

again...people standing too close to a rig watching it when it flops

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)?

keep a tree between you and a rig youre watching at all times...do the same when winching or strapping a truck...if a tree is unavailable...use a truck

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced?

I've got some dents and i ripped off my stock skid plate

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience?

I've seen birfs, cvs, diffs, driveshafts, and tires all give up...along with ujoints, lift blocks, and body mounts

Additional Comments if needed (and don't forget pictures).

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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? TN/ North AL

Do you wheel at an offroad park? Sometimes

What type of terrain is it? Mud/rocks/steep inclines

How often do you go offroad?
*** If you don't wheel very often, is it because there's not a lot of areas to wheel or that you have to travel too far? once a month at parks
*** If you wheel a lot - do you have a lot of trails available to you? once a week with hobbies

Do you wheel with an offroad club? No

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? Yes
If yes - what are the trail ratings? 1- easy---5- serious damage to be expected

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? stock

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your areas? extreme hybrids with 44" tires & built 350/400's

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? A/T or M/T tires./ recovery points/ skid plates

If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? Lockers/ sliders/ more lift/ taller tires/ winch

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out? Throttle control/ terrain reading

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? Yes

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you? help if you can and be respectful to others and the enviroment

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? if you bring it with you, it needs to leave with you.... pick up your shit

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out? Expect to help other people within reason and the same as above.

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? Still stock

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad? completely buried front end in mud while back end off the ground( old taco)

What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people? Rollovers

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading? Breaking something

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading? two way trails with ATVs and recovering vehichles

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)? Stay sober and observant

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced? popped a tire on top of narrow ridge with 150' drop either side

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience? U-joints/ axles/ tire shredded all on one climb

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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? North Florida

Do you wheel at an offroad park? No

What type of terrain is it? Mud, Dirt, Beach Sand, Forrest trail

How often do you go offroad?
Not often enough. Not alot of trails to wheel close by.

Do you wheel with an offroad club? I keep trying to start one but I have no takers in the area so far.

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? No
If yes - what are the trail ratings?

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? 4 wheels and a steering wheel.
What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? Jeeps

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? All terrains or Mud Terrains


If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out? Stay out of the ruts if they're filled with water.

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? Somewhat

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you? Stay on the trail, keep it clean, keep it legal.

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? Cleanliness

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them before going out? Cleanliness

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? 3" lift, 32's, skid plate,

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad? Stuck in a ditch without help.


What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people? Ocean swalled a friends truck. should have had a 4x4.

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading? getting stuck at the beach (low tide only.)

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading? Recovery

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)? Don't drink and drive.

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced? My bank account.

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience? IDK
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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? (no details please) Ohio

Do you wheel at an offroad park? (yes or no) sometimes

What type of terrain is it? (this can be a long answer if needed) mud & rocks

How often do you go offroad? 1-2 times a year (ohv park) maybe twice a week at home...have to travel at least 2 hrs to get to a decent park
*** If you don't wheel very often, is it because there's not a lot of areas to wheel or that you have to travel too far? (Keep it geographic)
*** If you wheel a lot - do you have a lot of trails available to you? (keep it geographic) a few private places 3-4 miles of trails in close proximity

Do you wheel with an offroad club? OHTTORA

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? (yes or no) yes
If yes - what are the trail ratings? yellow, blue, black...i think

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? (in other words, what's the lowest vehicle requirement you'd expect someone to have to go offroad with you) no parks here, so run what ya brung. i would say a good minimum would be 32's/33's, at least factory skids, a fullsize spare, yank strap, sliders, at least one good recovery point, and a CB, for organized runs.

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? (you know the ones.... basic description)

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? (list modifications only please) sliders, skids, mild lift,MT's

If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? (list modifications only please) lockers, powermods, waterproofing, suspension, additional cooling




If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out? don't be affraid to ask for a spot, take it slow, and watch how the more experienced navigate the trail...you can learn a lot...i have

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? (yes, no, or somewhat) have never been exposed to any written guidlines

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you? Respect. respect others (wheelers, ATV/dirtbikers, spectators) respect the trail (you are either on private or govenment owned land, it's a privilage...not a right) no litter, clean up oil spills etc., in fact...clean up someone else's trash if you see any. finally, respect yourself & your rig...don't try something you're not sure you can do and end up hurting yourself or others, or uneccesarily tearing up your rig.

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? (could be lengthy if needed....) i'm big on trash. when i go wheelin' i want to enjoy the sceenery as much as the driving. Don't trash up the trail! Don't like goading either (you know...when people try to get someone to do something they don't want to) No alcohol till AFTER the run is over.

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out? see above

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? (basic list please) locker mod, sliders, 32's, diff. breathers, K&N, Bilstein 5100's, fog light mod, backup camera, custom shackle insert, tow plug relocated, CB

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad? 3 mile hike at 2am when the tranny shifter on an Aerostar broke (yes, i said Aerostar! they had an electronicly activated 4WD version of those things...they go like hell, but they break easy)

What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people? blown differential, massive sheet metal damage

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading? Having Fun! keeping my panels straight

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading? roll overs

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)? think before you do

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced? CV axle minor body damage

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience? hydrolocked

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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? (no details please)
Florida, will go to GA though when the opportunity presents itself.

Do you wheel at an offroad park? (yes or no)
Does ONF count? Or Hardrock? Pllannin on going over Spring Break, haven't been yet.

What type of terrain is it? (this can be a long answer if needed)
Sand, Mud, Dirt, Hills, water crossings

How often do you go offroad?
*** If you don't wheel very often, is it because there's not a lot of areas to wheel or that you have to travel too far? (Keep it geographic)
*** If you wheel a lot - do you have a lot of trails available to you? (keep it geographic)
As often as I can, but legal places around me are pretty much nonexistent.

Do you wheel with an offroad club?
No

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? Somewhat
If yes - what are the trail ratings?

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? (in other words, what's the lowest vehicle requirement you'd expect someone to have to go offroad with you). I see people mud 2wd stock trucks all the time, but I wouldnt suggest it.

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? (you know the ones.... basic description). Fullsized trucks with massive lifts with mud terrains and 20" wheels. All they ever do is mud

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? (list modifications only please). Diff breather and tires

If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? (list modifications only please)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out? As slow as possible, as fast as neccessary

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? (yes, no, or somewhat) Yes

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you? Not tailgating the truck infront of you, warning others of possible areas that could get rough, helping a stuck rig if possible, making sure you keep the area clean and pick up garbage

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? (could be lengthy if needed....)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out? The slower the better

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? (basic list please). 32" BFG A/Ts

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad? Getting stuck on the beach at 9Pm with a dead battery.

What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people? Friend broke a rear u joint on his YJ 5 miles in the woods, at 9pm (dark as hell), in the rain, on a muddy trail. Fun

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading? Safety.

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading? Rolling

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)? Not to us a tow strap for recovery, wear your safety belt.

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced?
So far, nothing.

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience? Rear U Joint broke at night in the rain on a miudy trail
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There's soo many different variations of offroading across the world/country - it'd be nice to get an idea of what types of offroading everyone is doing and what/how you build your rigs for it. What types of cultures do you have in your area of offroading? ETC. Answer the questions below and if you have pictures - post 'em. This is all about the terrain. If you wheel something other than your tacoma, your input still applies!! Post it!! 4Wheeled vehicles only please (no ATV experience). Please - no debating on why or what people do. If you have questions - feel free. Just make a note to understand each others culture.
We don't need to know personal reasons why you answer the questions the way you do. Your reasons & thoughts aren't up for debate.This is strictly a list of information for everyone to read.
Enjoy!!

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Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Basic Questions

State you wheel in? (no details please)
NY

Do you wheel at an offroad park? (yes or no)
no

What type of terrain is it? (this can be a long answer if needed)
Varried. Mostly logging roads, seasonal use roads, and ATV trails. The seasonal use roads are not plowed during the winter so they can be challenging during the winter depending on snow and ice. But I can be sure there's at least a solid dirt/gravel surface under the snow. They can also be washed out during the summer if the town/county hasn't come through with a load dirt and a grader.

How often do you go offroad?
Not as often as I'd like. Lack of trails and recent hike in gas prices have conspired against me. If there were parks in the area, or at least less than 3-4 hours away I'd go more often. I'll be willing to make the trip when we're more financially stable and the truck is armored more. As it it now the washed out/snow cover roads are a quick fix that can't get me into too much trouble.

*** If you don't wheel very often, is it because there's not a lot of areas to wheel or that you have to travel too far? (Keep it geographic)
*** If you wheel a lot - do you have a lot of trails available to you? (keep it geographic)

Do you wheel with an offroad club?
No. Closest clubs I'm aware of are at least 2-3 hours away, same as the parks.

Do you have or are you exposed to a trail rating system? (yes or no)
If yes - what are the trail ratings?
Have heard of them, but having not been anywhere where they are used I've never paid much attention.

What's the minimum requirements to go trail riding in your area? (in other words, what's the lowest vehicle requirement you'd expect someone to have to go offroad with you)

What's the biggest & most built type of rigs that you see wheeling in your area? (you know the ones.... basic description)
I see lots of lifted trucks and jeeps with winches, but no idea where these people have fun. I'm guessing private land so there's probably no "real" requirement other than being a friend/family member with a rig.

If you were just starting out (in your area), what modifications would you recommend first? (list modifications only please)
  1. better tires than stock.
  2. lift
  3. sliders
  4. winch/come-along/recovery strap
  5. skid plates
  6. bumpers
If you're a seasoned wheeler - what other types of modifications would you recommend? (list modifications only please)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of tips & techniques for driving) before going out?

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Trail Etiquette

Are you familiar with what trail etiquette is? (yes, no, or somewhat)
Somewhat. Again, not many places to go or people to go with so it never comes up.

What's your basic description of what trail etiquette is to you?
Be careful and respectful of the land, and other drivers. Let down hill traffic go first, keep an eye out for smaller vehicles like ATV, go-carts and bikes.

List some very important trail etiquette that you enforce in your area? (could be lengthy if needed....)

If you were to take a totally new person on the trails with you, what do you teach them (in terms of trail etiquette) before going out?

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Your experience

List your modifications? (basic list please)
Lift, tires, Hi-Lift, locker mod, ABS kill switch

What's the worst situation you've ever been in while offroad?
Stuck in a cereal bowl on lunch break. Hung up on my step bars trying to get over the lip to get out. Ended up having to back up as fast as possible to get up the opposite side, and have my buddy with his jeep help pull me over. Snapped a 20,000lb tow strap in the process, and broke his headlight, turn signal, and grill on my tow hook pushing me back in to try the reverse extraction.

What's the worst situation you've seen happen to other people?

What's your biggest (could be anything) concern while offroading?
Getting stuck without a way to get out. No calling AAA for those places!

Wheelin Terrain Questionnaire - Safety & Technicals

What's your biggest concerns about safety while offroading?
Getting stuck or going off camber too much and sliding into a tree or rolling.

What's the most important thing you'd recommend to someone (about safety)?
Carry recovery gear, scope out the trail as soon as it become questionable, have at least a buddy with you if you can't get another truck to come along, and have a working cell phone.

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've experienced?
Broke the front differential in a mud pit. The 4wd still worked, but made a little noise and oil leaked out the axle shaft seals. Replaced under warranty.

What's the worst breakage (or carnage) you've seen other people experience?
Lots of damage in videos and pics. Nothing in person.

Additional Comments if needed (and don't forget pictures).

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Sorry this is so lengthy, but I just jotted down everything that was in my mind of things I'd be curious to know about and how we can learn from each others different types of wheelin.
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Oh_Six_Taco_4x4 - or anyone who wheels at the beach.....

How do you guys plan for wheeling around high/low tides?

Just curious how that plays into things.
BUDDY SYSTEM!

Plan? We usually have our jetskis on the hitch. Our plan is to go jetsking and wheel during our breaks. Not too much to wheel at the beach but still fun. But seriously, bring a buddy cause the ocean doesn't care how pretty your truck is.
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