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Old 03-31-2009, 07:30 PM   #1
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You can cross wheeling Tellico off your list

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=775371

glad i got to experience Southeastern wheeling at its finest
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It doesn't say permanently just till March 2011.

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This closure is effective from April 1, 2009 until March 31, 2011, or earlier if the order is officially terminated by the Forest Supervisor.
That came from this link: http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/nepa/tu...dm_3_31_09.pdf
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Where does it say it's closing permanently?
I only saw 'temporary' closures.....That happens every year down there.

not like this...and this is how the closings of parks down here go...they close them "temporarily" until no one cares anymore etc...and then they close it for good
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It doesn't say permanently just till March 2011.

That came from this link: http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/nepa/tu...dm_3_31_09.pdf
And who knows....it could be longer. I've been to Tellico 3x over a span of 5 years and the trails change drastically in only a years time. Everything erodes away and the trails get worse & more extreme.

I'm sure - especially in this economy, the state doesn't have the money to keep up with and maintain the areas.

And to be completely honest...there's only one or two trails (trail 1 & 4 from what I remember) that a stock 4WD vehicle can enjoy. Everything else, you gotta be majorly equipped w/ lockers & winches.
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Check with your local off-road clubs, join & help "Adopt" these trails.
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Check with your local off-road clubs, join & help "Adopt" these trails.
It'll take an aweful lot of man hours, $$, and heavy equipment to get the trails back to what I would consider 'enjoyable' for everyone to experience.
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And who knows....it could be longer. I've been to Tellico 3x over a span of 5 years and the trails change drastically in only a years time. Everything erodes away and the trails get worse & more extreme.

I'm sure - especially in this economy, the state doesn't have the money to keep up with and maintain the areas.

And to be completely honest...there's only one or two trails (trail 1 & 4 from what I remember) that a stock 4WD vehicle can enjoy. Everything else, you gotta be majorly equipped w/ lockers & winches.
it really depended when you went...if you went shortly after they would do trail repairs then you could do a lot more than if you went right before trail repairs

but youre right...trails change drastically over the course of a year...but itsno different than any other trail...

the difference here is an environmental group with time and resources available to finish the fight showed up
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Did the trails with some friends with Jeeps years ago. They live in N Ga and Tn and are having to go other places now.
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the difference here is an environmental group with time and resources available to finish the fight showed up
Environmental groups always have time & resourses no matter where they are.

Our primary (and HUGE) offroad park here in PA (Paragon) got closed down about 2 years ago by developers who wanted to put a cargo airport there. The entire offroading community tried like hell to fight it. It was a huge fight and obviously, Paragon lost. Thank Gawd Rausch Creek exists - or else offroading in this area wouldn't exist. Atleast, not legally anyway. And those other areas that are 'not legal' (so to speak), would get closed down eventually. Now - with the economy the way it is..... where's the cargo airport now - no construction & no developments.
What a waste of good prime land & trails.
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AND its official

http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/press/t...ws_release.pdf

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Contact: Terry Seyden, 828-257-4202
10/14/2009
For Immediate Release

U.S. Forest Service Announces Decision on Upper Tellico OHV Trails System
ASHEVILLE, NC ….The US Forest Service announced today that it is permanently closing the Upper Tellico OHV trail system in order to correct serious erosion problems in the Upper Tellico River watershed in Cherokee County, NC.
“When we first began our analysis we hoped we could make repairs and modifications to the existing OHV Trail system that would correct the water quality problems while still allowing for some level of OHV use in this area to continue,” said National Forests in North Carolina Supervisor Marisue Hilliard. “Unfortunately we discovered that repairing the existing problems and maintaining these Upper Tellico OHV trails in the future would be much more difficult than we expected,” Hilliard said.
“Our analysis has shown the problems to be worse than we first thought,” said Forest Supervisor Hilliard. “The 39 mile Upper Tellico OHV Trail System is currently contributing unacceptable levels of sediment into the Tellico River and its tributaries. The Forest Service is in violation of its own standards and North Carolina state water quality standards because visible sediment from the OHV trails is reaching the Tellico River and its tributaries in hundreds of locations. Many of the trails are on steep slopes and they all occur on very erodible soils. Much of the Tellico OHV trail system runs parallel to streams in the area, with over six miles within 100 feet of streams. The locations of these trails make it extremely difficult to prevent sediment from reaching the streams even if we are successful in repairing existing problems. ” Hilliard said.
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In February, 2009, the Forest Service sought public comment on a detailed environmental assessment which looked at six alternatives for future management of the Upper Tellico OHV trail system including a preferred alternative of closing the OHV trail system.
“After careful considering the 2,400 public comments we received and thoroughly reviewing all alternatives in the environmental assessment, I have selected Alternative C, which closes the OHV System,” said Hilliard. “While we are closing the 39 mile OHV Trail system we will be keeping 13 miles of FS system roads in the area open year round or seasonally for highway legal vehicles. This will provide access for hunting, fishing and other recreation activities. We also will be paving and reconstructing a portion of HW 420-1 which accesses private land and serves as a through route from TN to NC for recreationists visiting the Tellico area. Closed roads and trails will be stabilized and rehabilitated to eliminate future sedimentation into the Tellico River,” Hilliard said.
“While I realize that our OHV recreationists are understandably disappointed with this decision on Tellico, I want to reassure our OHV users that we are committed to maintaining other OHV trail opportunities on the National Forests in North Carolina which are located on more suitable sites” said Hilliard.
Other national forest OHV trail systems in North Carolina include:
Wayehutta, Nantahala NF, 21 miles (21 miles ATV and motorcycle),
Brown Mountain, Pisgah NF, 34 miles (6 miles 4WD, 27 miles ATV, 34 miles motorcycle)
Badin Lake, Uwharrie NF, 16 miles (16 miles 4WD, ATV and motorcycle)
Black Swamp, Croatan NF, 8 miles (8 miles 4WD, ATV and motorcycle)
Copies of the decision notice, environmental assessment, proposed additional supporting documentation can be found at http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/nepa/tusquitee/tellico.htm

For more information contact:
Tellico Project Coordinator, Candace Wyman 828-230-5039 (cell)
Tusquitee District Ranger, Steve Lohr 828-712-6317 (cell).
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Man that sucks. State line closed around here not to long ago. Windrock and Royal Blue (where they are reintroducing elk into the smokys) will be next
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im not familiar with Royal Blue...however ive been to Coal Creek/Windrock

i hope they dont close it...its not much for HARD stuff for trucks...but its great for semi stock guys who just want to get out in the woods...and i hear its awesome for 4wheelers

I think the next big one on the list will be Harlan...however im pretty certain that Harlan's ownership just changed in the past couple years with the goal of providing better trail/land maintenance...and they got something like a 30 year lease on the land...
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im not familiar with Royal Blue...however ive been to Coal Creek/Windrock

i hope they dont close it...its not much for HARD stuff for trucks...but its great for semi stock guys who just want to get out in the woods...and i hear its awesome for 4wheelers

I think the next big one on the list will be Harlan...however im pretty certain that Harlan's ownership just changed in the past couple years with the goal of providing better trail/land maintenance...and they got something like a 30 year lease on the land...
Royal Blue is worth looking into if your ever in the east tennessee area. Let me know if you are and we'll hit some trails. I'm sure a few other tenn. tacos would join.

Your right about coal creek. its an amazing place for fourwheelers, but theres nothing to extreme for trucks.
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i dont wheel anymore...at least for awhile...other priorities financially

the only HARD trail i know at coal creek is Rattle Rock...and thats BEYOND hard...i think its listed as one of the hardest obstacles on the east coast
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i dont wheel anymore...at least for awhile...other priorities financially

the only HARD trail i know at coal creek is Rattle Rock...and thats BEYOND hard...i think its listed as one of the hardest obstacles on the east coast
I understand that. I'm scared to tear anything up on mine right now because I cant afford to fix it.

Never seen rattle rock. Sounds like one i need to stay away from anyways lol
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