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Old 07-27-2010, 01:33 PM   #1
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College Ordered Student to Alter Religious Views on Homosexuality, Or Be Dismissed

Looks like a Christian just doesn't fit in to the college mold anymore. I'd like to see most of these BS libtard institutions burn to the ground and start over.

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A graduate student in Georgia is suing her university after she was told she must undergo a remediation program due to her beliefs on homosexuality and transgendered persons.
The student, Jennifer Keeton, 24, has been pursuing a master's degree in school counseling at Augusta State University since 2009, but school officials have informed her that she'll be dismissed from the program unless she alters her "central religious beliefs on human nature and conduct," according to a civil complaint filed last week.
"[Augusta State University] faculty have promised to expel Miss Keeton from the graduate Counselor Education Program not because of poor academic showing or demonstrated deficiencies in clinical performance, but simply because she has communicated both inside and outside the classroom that she holds to Christian ethical convictions on matters of human sexuality and gender identity," the 43-page lawsuit reads.
Keeton, according to the lawsuit, was informed by school officials in late May that she would be asked to take part in a remediation plan due to faculty concerns regarding her beliefs pertaining to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender issues.
"The faculty identifies Miss Keeton's views as indicative of her improper professional disposition to persons of such populations," the lawsuit reads.


In a statement to FoxNews.com, Augusta State University officials declined to comment specifically on the litigation, but said the university does not discriminate on the basis of students' moral, religious, political or personal views or beliefs.
"The Counselor Education Program is grounded in the core principles of the American Counseling Association and the American School Counselor Association, which defines the roles and responsibilities of professional counselors in its code of ethics," the statement read. "The code is included in the curriculum of the counseling education program, which states that counselors in training have the same responsibility as professional counselors to understand and follow the ACA Code of Ethics."
The Code of Ethics prohibits counselors from discriminating based on a number of factors, including gender identity and sexual orientation. "Counselors do not discriminate against clients, students, employees, supervisees, or research participants in a manner that has a negative impact on these persons," the code says.
Keeton's lawsuit alleges that the university's remediation plan noted Keeton's "disagreement in several class discussions and in written assignments with the gay and lesbian 'lifestyle,'" as well as Keeton's belief that those "lifestyles" are cases of identity confusion.
If Keeton fails to complete the plan, including additional reading and the writing of papers describing the impact on her beliefs, she will be expelled from the Counselor Education Program, the lawsuit claims.
Keeton has stated that she believes sexual behavior is the "result of accountable personal choice rather than an inevitability deriving from deterministic forces," according to the suit.
"She also has affirmed binary male-female gender, with one or the other being fixed in each person at their creation, and not a social construct or individual choice subject to alteration by the person so created," the lawsuit reads. "Further, she has expressed her view that homosexuality is a 'lifestyle,' not a 'state of being.'"
David French, senior counsel at the Alliance Defense Fund, which filed the lawsuit against Augusta State University on Keeton's behalf, said no university has the right to force a citizen to change their beliefs on any topic.
"The university has told Jennifer Keeton that if she doesn't change her beliefs, she can't stay in the program," he told FoxNews.com. "She won't even have a chance to counsel any students; she won't have a chance to get a counseling degree; she'll be expelled."
Keeton, who is not available for interviews according to French, believes that people have "moral choices" regarding their sexuality, he said.
"A student has a right to express their point of view in and out of class without fear or censorship or expulsion," French said.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/27...awsuit-claims/
 
Old 07-27-2010, 01:39 PM   #3
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stuff like this makes my blood boil. everyone screams for "tolerance" but then conveniently fails to apply it to their own lives/views.
 
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So, "the university does not discriminate on the basis of students' moral, religious, political or personal views or beliefs." Yet the student is being expelled for her moral, religious, and personal views. That is stupid!
 
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What I find to be crazy is the fact that they want her to be tolerant of others while at the same time doing what they accuse her of doing.
^^^ This!
 
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So lets see if I have this correct.

The student isn't allowed to believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle but anybody that chooses to live that lifestyle is ok

I'm about tired of all the political correctness, look the other way, don't ask don't tell, don't hurt anybody's feelings, leave No child behind Bullshit.

America is becoming a society of pussies
 
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Looks like a Christian just doesn't fit in to the college mold anymore. I'd like to see most of these BS libtard institutions burn to the ground and start over.
I thought a good Christian was someone to follow in Jesus's example and love and forgive everyone, regardless of race, creed, sexual orientation, etc.

But wait, there's more!

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"The Counselor Education Program is grounded in the core principles of the American Counseling Association and the American School Counselor Association, which defines the roles and responsibilities of professional counselors in its code of ethics," the statement read. "The code is included in the curriculum of the counseling education program, which states that counselors in training have the same responsibility as professional counselors to understand and follow the ACA Code of Ethics."
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The Code of Ethics prohibits counselors from discriminating based on a number of factors, including gender identity and sexual orientation. "Counselors do not discriminate against clients, students, employees, supervisees, or research participants in a manner that has a negative impact on these persons," the code says.
So, they are saying that if she doesn't follow the guidelines of the program, she will be expelled from the program -- not the school.

But, yeah, hey, let's burn a bunch of schools and limit the intellectual creativity of the next generation of counselors, leaders and mentors!

Let's all also decide that if you don't adhere to a strict fundamental Christian philosophy of hatemongering and intolerance, then any institutions you design for the advancement of others through counseling is inherently flawed, despite years of research and practice!

Way to preach the ways and means of intolerance and fear! Preach on brother!
 
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It's funny, I went to Jesuit University and the professors and Fathers there were among the most tolerant I've ever met. It's a shame some schools feel like they have the right to force people into certain beliefs
 
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Typical Liberal bullshit. I'd love to know where a public instituion has any right to intervene in a religious discussion or view. That is a direct violation of the constitutional seperation of church and state but the constitution doesn't seem to apply anymore unless it's used to support a liberal agenda.
 
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Red tape political bull shit...
 
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I thought a good Christian was someone to follow in Jesus's example and love and forgive everyone, regardless of race, creed, sexual orientation, etc.

But wait, there's more!



AND!



So, they are saying that if she doesn't follow the guidelines of the program, she will be expelled from the program -- not the school.

But, yeah, hey, let's burn a bunch of schools and limit the intellectual creativity of the next generation of counselors, leaders and mentors!

Let's all also decide that if you don't adhere to a strict fundamental Christian philosophy of hatemongering and intolerance, then any institutions you design for the advancement of others through counseling is inherently flawed, despite years of research and practice!

Way to preach the ways and means of intolerance and fear! Preach on brother!
Seems like public opinion is with me so you can continue to fuck off.
 
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Seems like public opinion is with me so you can continue to fuck off.
Public opinion of this board? Of FOX News? Gee, big sample sizes.

Nice with the personal attacks, too. Aiming for a quick lock on this one, I see.
Must not be a topic near and dear to your heart.

She's a bad fit for the program -- plain and simple. Let's say I really wanted to be a welder -- but I think that acetylene torches are the tools of the Devil sent to destroy mankind. Probably wouldn't be the best career move...
 
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but I think that acetylene torches are the tools of the Devil sent to destroy mankind.
Wait....they're not???
 
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Typical Liberal bullshit. I'd love to know where a public instituion has any right to intervene in a religious discussion or view. That is a direct violation of the constitutional seperation of church and state but the constitution doesn't seem to apply anymore unless it's used to support a liberal agenda.
I don't see how this has anything to do with the Constitution.

In this case, the public institution is actually being MORE tolerant. She doesn't meet the criteria set forth for the program, and as opposed to being dismissed summarily, she is being given the option of continuing -- however, in order to continue, she must undergo supplemental training to bring herself up to speed.

Nobody is forcing her into her educational/career path. She could major in Religious Studies and nobody with give a flying shit about a homophobic whack job. The program is dictating that in order to meet the educational purposes of their curriculum, she needs to be able to differentiate between her own personal beliefs and the needs of her patrons.
 
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Wait....they're not???
I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of acetylene torches as the product of Satan...
 
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This thread has earned itself the infamous lock!

I kid you not, knock this off. If you want to post an article think about your approach. Posting up with titles you shoose generally preset a tone of anyone who comes in to read it.

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Seems like public opinion is with me so you can continue to fuck off.
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Public opinion of this board? Of FOX News? Gee, big sample sizes.

Nice with the personal attacks, too. Aiming for a quick lock on this one, I see.
Must not be a topic near and dear to your heart.

She's a bad fit for the program -- plain and simple. Let's say I really wanted to be a welder -- but I think that acetylene torches are the tools of the Devil sent to destroy mankind. Probably wouldn't be the best career move...
 
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