I am really PO'd right now...

Charli · 07-03-2008, 05:02 PM

Background before the rant begins: I took my bike in for it's 600 mile service. Although I plan to do the maintenance myself in the future, the initial service is important to tighten everything up and adjust, so I took it to the only place around here--I didn't trust them going in, but, well, they're the only place around here. I've already changed the oil once myself due to its nasty blackness, so I know what I'm talking about in that department.

The bastards did NOT take good care of my Baby! Upon picking her up there was a HUGE black streak all the way down the pipe, and WATERMARKS on the chain cover! They let her get WET! They left her out in the RAIN! Apparently, they dried most of her off, but missed a few places, hence the water spots. They also waited a while to dry her off and/or left her out in the rain for a while because I found what looks suspiciously like rust marks on the edge of the brake pedal! Then there are the black marks all over the front forks from grubby hands--I mean they wiped right off, so how hard would it have been for them to do that?!
Then there is the part where they didn't listen to me. I TOLD them going in that she takes more oil than the specs say--at least half a quart more. (no, I don't know where it goes, but it goes there--after it runs for five minutes after an oil change, the window looks empty and it never refills no matter how long it sits and then the shifting gets rougher) So now, 200 bucks later--thieving bastards--I have to go out and add oil because they suck. Just because I'm a girl does NOT mean that I don't know what I'm talking about! Maybe it's not because I'm a girl, maybe they don't listen to anyone about their bike, but I gotta wonder. It's not the most expensive bike on earth, but geez, all bikes deserve better treatment than that! Anyway, sorry, just had to vent. If you made it all the way through this you deserve a beer, or a shot of tequila, if you prefer!

socalman22 · 07-03-2008, 05:09 PM

I will take a shot of patron anejo please! Now you know to find a place farther the that crap hole of a place sorry to hear about your expierence.

Toy4Life · 07-03-2008, 05:27 PM

I'll have a Michelob! That's really $hitty! Sorry some people suck.

Ridgerunner · 07-03-2008, 05:28 PM

I poured a pelligrino in agreement and sympathy to your rotten experience. I tell you nowadays you almost have to 'slap the crap' out of people to get them to give a s**t about the job they do! Work ethic is out the window anymore

Toy4Life · 07-03-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner

I poured a pelligrino in agreement and sympathy to your rotten experience. I tell you nowadays you almost have to 'slap the crap' out of people to get them to give a s**t about the job they do! Work ethic is out the window anymore

Some people don't take any pride in their work either!

Charli · 07-03-2008, 05:43 PM

Thanks guys! I'm having Chivas myself at the moment. The kids must think I'm really nuts now (well, it's probably not a big shock to them--they know how I feel about my bike and my truck and they know I'm nuts

) as I was crawling around on the garage floor with the chrome polish mumbling "It's okay Baby, it'll be okay, I'll fix you, and you never have to go back to those nasty bastards again..."

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Work ethic is out the window anymore

I totally agree--I don't get it either. Why do it at all if they're not going to do it with care?

Now I'm wondering if they dropped it and that's where the black scuff marks came from--there may be a few more scratches at the end of the pipe than there were before.

joedirt · 07-03-2008, 06:36 PM

Maybe they were "testing" it out in the parking lot, two up, and the black scuffs are from the guys' boots?

Don G · 07-03-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Charli

Background before the rant begins: I took my bike in for it's 600 mile service. Although I plan to do the maintenance myself in the future, the initial service is important to tighten everything up and adjust, so I took it to the only place around here--I didn't trust them going in, but, well, they're the only place around here. I've already changed the oil once myself due to its nasty blackness, so I know what I'm talking about in that department.

The bastards did NOT take good care of my Baby! Upon picking her up there was a HUGE black streak all the way down the pipe, and WATERMARKS on the chain cover! They let her get WET! They left her out in the RAIN! Apparently, they dried most of her off, but missed a few places, hence the water spots. They also waited a while to dry her off and/or left her out in the rain for a while because I found what looks suspiciously like rust marks on the edge of the brake pedal! Then there are the black marks all over the front forks from grubby hands--I mean they wiped right off, so how hard would it have been for them to do that?!
Then there is the part where they didn't listen to me. I TOLD them going in that she takes more oil than the specs say--at least half a quart more. (no, I don't know where it goes, but it goes there--after it runs for five minutes after an oil change, the window looks empty and it never refills no matter how long it sits and then the shifting gets rougher) So now, 200 bucks later--thieving bastards--I have to go out and add oil because they suck. Just because I'm a girl does NOT mean that I don't know what I'm talking about! Maybe it's not because I'm a girl, maybe they don't listen to anyone about their bike, but I gotta wonder. It's not the most expensive bike on earth, but geez, all bikes deserve better treatment than that! Anyway, sorry, just had to vent. If you made it all the way through this you deserve a beer, or a shot of tequila, if you prefer!

OK Charli it's good to vent yourself this way to feel better but you should put on your leathers and go nose to nose with those "thieving bastards" and tell them what you just told us! ! ! There is something about a Biker Momma with a piece of chain in her hand to make the hair stand up on the back of the neck

You Go Girl - We are right behind you! !!

Charli · 07-03-2008, 06:48 PM

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There is something about a Biker Momma with a piece of chain in her hand to make the hair stand up on the back of the neck

You Go Girl - We are right behind you! !!

Hubby does say that I'm "intimidating" for someone not all that big...and I do intend to have it out with them, but it will have to wait until there is someone here to watch the kids.....sigh.

Hmmm... the knife is in my underwear drawer.... Now where did I put that chain....

squad314 · 07-03-2008, 07:54 PM

Sorry to hear Charli.......To those monkeys its just another hunk of metal.They don't give a rat's ass how special our vehicles are to us or how hard we've worked to get and maintain them.Needless to say they've seen the last of your bike and cash...screw 'em.

The extra oil is staying in your oil filter I'd say,but again,these guys looked at the specs and moved along....Take pride in the fact that you know more about your machine than they the "pros".

Charli · 07-03-2008, 08:47 PM

Thanks again guys!

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The extra oil is staying in your oil filter I'd say,but again,these guys looked at the specs and moved along....Take pride in the fact that you know more about your machine than they the "pros".

Thank you squad314! Now that you mention it, when I pulled the old filter it did seem to make an awful mess, so yes, you are correct there--that was my first ever oil change on a bike, so I didn't completely know what to expect, but now that you said that, I remember the "waterfall" of oil.

tacomaman06 · 07-03-2008, 08:57 PM

hey charli........sorry to hear about the bullshit from a crap company apparently!!! go back and give them hell.........and dont be shy about it either!!1 if i lived close........we'd pay a visit to the crapshoot place you went, and it wouldnt be pretty!!!

by the way...........im having a good cold one for you now!!

robrjohnson · 07-03-2008, 10:18 PM

Does it require a valve check at the 600 mile service? Dealers are notorious for skipping it but charging you for it anyway.

concrete jedi · 07-04-2008, 04:41 AM

Sorry to hear that, but if you saw the way I treat my bike you would probably kick me in the B

LLS, still doesn't change the fact that you were upset with there handling of the bike, right a complaint to the BBB, there is probably more than one on them.

chris4x4 · 07-04-2008, 05:57 AM

Im sorry to hear about your experience. Rais hell with the owner/manager.
Same thing happened to me. Took my bike in for service, got it back with water spots, and smears of crap on it. I raised hell, and found a new shop.

piercedtiger · 07-06-2008, 11:03 AM

That's why no one touches my cars unless it's something I can't do.

There's 2 local mechanics I go to for complicated work I don't have tools or experience doing, but I do as much as I can. I'll go to to Toyota for warranty work, but that's only happened once in 6 years. Rest of the time I do as much as possible myself because I don't trust anyone else, and I can do the same work for a lot less money.

Sorry it had to happen! Just reinforces my DIY policy.

tacomaman06 · 07-06-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by piercedtiger

That's why no one touches my cars unless it's something I can't do.

There's 2 local mechanics I go to for complicated work I don't have tools or experience doing, but I do as much as I can. I'll go to to Toyota for warranty work, but that's only happened once in 6 years. Rest of the time I do as much as possible myself because I don't trust anyone else, and I can do the same work for a lot less money.

Sorry it had to happen! Just reinforces my DIY policy.

well said man. im the same way.....i got a shop here with 3 or 4 mechanics i have personally known for a while!! i do everything myself, stuff i cant do......i let them do!!!!

centurion · 07-06-2008, 11:20 AM

If you think car stealerships suck, think again, bike dealers, all of em, really blow. For the most part they have kids assembling and workin on the bikes.

My KLR650 has never seen a dealer except when assembled, i do all my own stuff. My Harley was dealer serviced but they did a horrible job, yeah, you dont always get what you paid for.

What kind of bike is it? My klr has a sight glass but that doesnt mean you have to fill it past the top, be careful, putting too much oil in can build up crankcase pressure.

Charli · 07-06-2008, 01:08 PM

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Does it require a valve check at the 600 mile service? Dealers are notorious for skipping it but charging you for it anyway.

Yeah, it does--there is an actual notation on the paperwork though that they supposedly adjusted them with what they adjustedthem to, so they MAY actually have done that. It does seem to have a bit more pick-up now.

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Sorry it had to happen! Just reinforces my DIY policy.

Mine too! We'd always planned to do everything ourselves after the initial service, and nothing here has changed my mind....

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bike dealers, all of em, really blow.

I can't agree more! We took it to this one only because it was the closest and easiest to drop off/pick up. I didn't trust the dealership we bought it from either plus it is pretty far away for service work.

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What kind of bike is it? My klr has a sight glass but that doesnt mean you have to fill it past the top, be careful, putting too much oil in can build up crankcase pressure.

Its a Suzuki GZ250--there's pics in my gallery if you are interested. I know about the window thing, but upright after running it after an oil change, the spec recommended oil amount comes to the very low end of low (like ON the L), and the shifting goes to hell. Somewhere at least halfway between the F and L would have been good enough for me. I doubt anybody even mentioned to the guy who worked on it that I'd said anything. Yeah, too much is a bad thing too--need some air in there.

Thanks again ya'll!

07-03-2008, 05:02 PM	#1
Charli Northern Alliance: First Lady Joined: Nov 2007, #3541 Location: Ohio Age: 38 Posts: 576 '06 Black Sand 4X4 SR5 TRD Sport V6 Access Cab 2006 Access Cab Automatic V6 Towing pkg with Mossberg hitch cover, Toyota tube steps, 3" Toytec lift and TSB, 1" diff drop, Tacoma World sticker	I am really PO'd right now... Background before the rant begins: I took my bike in for it's 600 mile service. Although I plan to do the maintenance myself in the future, the initial service is important to tighten everything up and adjust, so I took it to the only place around here--I didn't trust them going in, but, well, they're the only place around here. I've already changed the oil once myself due to its nasty blackness, so I know what I'm talking about in that department. The bastards did NOT take good care of my Baby! Upon picking her up there was a HUGE black streak all the way down the pipe, and WATERMARKS on the chain cover! They let her get WET! They left her out in the RAIN! Apparently, they dried most of her off, but missed a few places, hence the water spots. They also waited a while to dry her off and/or left her out in the rain for a while because I found what looks suspiciously like rust marks on the edge of the brake pedal! Then there are the black marks all over the front forks from grubby hands--I mean they wiped right off, so how hard would it have been for them to do that?! Then there is the part where they didn't listen to me. I TOLD them going in that she takes more oil than the specs say--at least half a quart more. (no, I don't know where it goes, but it goes there--after it runs for five minutes after an oil change, the window looks empty and it never refills no matter how long it sits and then the shifting gets rougher) So now, 200 bucks later--thieving bastards--I have to go out and add oil because they suck. Just because I'm a girl does NOT mean that I don't know what I'm talking about! Maybe it's not because I'm a girl, maybe they don't listen to anyone about their bike, but I gotta wonder. It's not the most expensive bike on earth, but geez, all bikes deserve better treatment than that! Anyway, sorry, just had to vent. If you made it all the way through this you deserve a beer, or a shot of tequila, if you prefer! __________________ Charli So Two Dogs.....any more questions?

07-03-2008, 05:09 PM	#2
socalman22 San Diego Chapter Joined: Mar 2007, #1146 Location: So.Cali Posts: 1,962 06 PreRunner Dbl Cab 2006 Double Cab Automatic 4.0L What Mods!	I will take a shot of patron anejo please! Now you know to find a place farther the that crap hole of a place sorry to hear about your expierence. __________________ 06 Pre Runner! San Diego Meet Oct 11th.

07-03-2008, 05:27 PM	#3
Toy4Life Walking in shadows Joined: Aug 2007, #2566 Location: Slippery Rock, PA Age: 29 Posts: 3,014 Radiant Red 02 TRD Offroad 2002 Access Cab Automatic 3.4L V6 Toytec 3" Lift(TAC3-PC-1000), 1" diff. drop, Tacoma World sticker, gray wire mod, 15x8 black steel wheels, 33/10.5/15 BFG AT KO's, Hella 500's(cracked), K&N High Flow air filter, trash can tonneau cover, Manik Brush Guard(whenever I get the brackets[I'm impatiently waiting!])	I'll have a Michelob! That's really $hitty! Sorry some people suck. __________________

07-03-2008, 06:36 PM	#7
joedirt Northern Alliance: Supplier Joined: Jan 2008, #4365 Location: Northern Va Age: 46 Posts: 734 Subaru Forester 2009 Double Cab Automatic H4 Foglights, Puddle Lights, iPod Adaptor, and the usual things you would associate with a suv. Yeah me.	Maybe they were "testing" it out in the parking lot, two up, and the black scuffs are from the guys' boots? __________________ ^^ Look what happens when you put your Tacoma in the microwave.

07-03-2008, 07:54 PM	#10
squad314 Go Sox,...Go Pats! Joined: Dec 2007, #3665 Location: Saint John NB,Canada Age: 39 Posts: 581 TRD Sport 4x4,black&chrome 2007 Double Cab Automatic Trifecta tonneau,Nasta tubes,Factory cargo bars,Sirius Starmate,Ventshades,Michelin LTX 265/70/17's,All weather mats,K&N Air filter.	Sorry to hear Charli.......To those monkeys its just another hunk of metal.They don't give a rat's ass how special our vehicles are to us or how hard we've worked to get and maintain them.Needless to say they've seen the last of your bike and cash...screw 'em. The extra oil is staying in your oil filter I'd say,but again,these guys looked at the specs and moved along....Take pride in the fact that you know more about your machine than they the "pros". __________________ Sine Macula

07-03-2008, 05:28 PM	#4
Ridgerunner Western Alliance: NorCal Joined: Mar 2008, #5269 Age: 47 Posts: 1,512 2001 prerunner doublecab limited 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 V6 2001 with; cat-back twin exhaust,bullbar with hella 550's, camper shell, TRD off-road 2x4-black beauty.	I poured a pelligrino in agreement and sympathy to your rotten experience. I tell you nowadays you almost have to 'slap the crap' out of people to get them to give a s**t about the job they do! Work ethic is out the window anymore

07-03-2008, 08:57 PM	#12
tacomaman06 Carolina Alliance: Redneck Division Joined: May 2007, #1475 Location: rock hill, sc Age: 29 Posts: 9,230 04 trd tacoma 4x4 v6 double cab 2004 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 v6 vent visors,deck plate mod, gray wire mod, black steelies and emblems, mag-lite mod, wheelers/ome suspension, stainless brake lines....still to come.... afe pro dry s filter..........plus many,many more!!	hey charli........sorry to hear about the bullshit from a crap company apparently!!! go back and give them hell.........and dont be shy about it either!!1 if i lived close........we'd pay a visit to the crapshoot place you went, and it wouldnt be pretty!!! by the way...........im having a good cold one for you now!! __________________ i am WILL--my ride=04 tacoma trd 4x4 double cab, v6, auto,deck plate mod, grey wire mod, billy 5100's all the way around,black low-pro uws toolbox, black steelies,blacked out emblems, mag light mod,wheelers/alcan springs, ome 881 coils, braided stainless brake lines, polyurethane bushings,soon to come....15 inch wheelers steelies and gy wrangler mtr's!!! http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa269/tacomaman06/ www.myspace.com/goodolboy1979

07-03-2008, 10:18 PM	#13
robrjohnson Northern Alliance: Western Div Joined: Aug 2007, #2352 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 46 Posts: 751 07 4x4 DC SR5 TRD Off-road 2007 Double Cab Manual 4.0L V6 Westin Bed Extender, Bakflip G2, Weathertech front & rear mats, rear suspension TSB, Hi-Lift Jack, Bilstein 5100 shocks & struts	Does it require a valve check at the 600 mile service? Dealers are notorious for skipping it but charging you for it anyway. __________________ Your Hybrid is my carbon offset. Fairness is a concept that was invented so that children and idiots could participate in arguments - Scott Adams My Photo Album

07-04-2008, 04:41 AM	#14
concrete jedi Senior Member Joined: Oct 2007, #3142 Location: Rochester N.Y Age: 43 Posts: 2,457 06 Tacoma 4 door indigo blue 2006 Double Cab Manual V-6 4.0 liter Broken and scratched tailgate, cracked rear tail light lens, coffee stain in driver seat.	Sorry to hear that, but if you saw the way I treat my bike you would probably kick me in the BLLS, still doesn't change the fact that you were upset with there handling of the bike, right a complaint to the BBB, there is probably more than one on them.

07-04-2008, 05:57 AM	#15
chris4x4 Western Alliance: no longer dead. Joined: May 2008, #6497 Location: Tempe ,Az Posts: 3,399 2007 PreRunner 2007 Double Cab Automatic 1GR-FE (4.0 V6) OME 885's, OME shocks, Total Chaos UCA's, TSB springs with AAL, 5100 rear shocks, custom built fuel tank skid plate	Im sorry to hear about your experience. Rais hell with the owner/manager. Same thing happened to me. Took my bike in for service, got it back with water spots, and smears of crap on it. I raised hell, and found a new shop. __________________ The simplest solutions are often the most clever..............they are also usually wrong.

07-06-2008, 11:03 AM	#16
piercedtiger Northern Alliance: Mod Guru Joined: Oct 2007, #3284 Location: Newark Valley, NY Age: 28 Posts: 3,426 06 TRD OR DC SB 6SPD 2006 Double Cab Manual 4.0 V6 Bestop canopy, hood struts, relocated 7-pin, 3" Toytec spacer/AAL, 285/75 16 Kumho Roadventure ATs, Hi-Lift mounted in bed, BHLM, fog light mod, turn signal mod, locker mod, driver seat mag light mount, step bars, reinforced tailgate, ABS kill switch, black grill surround, bed lights, rock lights...	That's why no one touches my cars unless it's something I can't do. There's 2 local mechanics I go to for complicated work I don't have tools or experience doing, but I do as much as I can. I'll go to to Toyota for warranty work, but that's only happened once in 6 years. Rest of the time I do as much as possible myself because I don't trust anyone else, and I can do the same work for a lot less money. Sorry it had to happen! Just reinforces my DIY policy. __________________ Like when daddy plays with mommy on her "woman week", I've caught you red handed. Cheap/free mods - Tacoma World Forums

07-06-2008, 11:20 AM	#18
centurion Member Joined: Apr 2008, #5930 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 48 2006 Tacoma TRD Sport,double cab, 4X4, auto, speedway blue 2006 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 Air-Raid air filter	If you think car stealerships suck, think again, bike dealers, all of em, really blow. For the most part they have kids assembling and workin on the bikes. My KLR650 has never seen a dealer except when assembled, i do all my own stuff. My Harley was dealer serviced but they did a horrible job, yeah, you dont always get what you paid for. What kind of bike is it? My klr has a sight glass but that doesnt mean you have to fill it past the top, be careful, putting too much oil in can build up crankcase pressure.