confederate flag

can i vote neither?

i dont like saying the word heritage when in reference to this flag...however i feel like it represents the same thing that our very own American Flag represents...a group of like minded people who want to govern ourselves...i dont care who says what or what you believe...that war was fought over states rights...

we wanted the right to govern ourselves and make the decisions that were right for our state...even if it meant slavery or no slavery...

to be clear...i absolutely agree that slavery in any way shape or form is wrong...as well as discrimination of any kind due to race sex etc...

the lack of knowledge about the flags etc is incredible...people pin all this hatred on a Confederate flag, but not all of them...and not even always the correct one...

 

Who here thinks that the current SC flag is racist?


no one?

Hmm...well...its the same flag that we flew over Fort Sumter when we seceded from the Union

 

I think the flag debate rages hotter in my state than anywhere else in the country currently...

A little background on the issue...in the 1970's a Confederate Battle Flag was raised above our State House dome below the American and State flags...it was not intended to be a permanent fixture, but became one for whatever reason. Recently, the NAACP began starting boycotts that include any NCAA championship events from being held in our state until the CBF was removed from the dome. During the arguments in our state govt about this, a compromise was reached and the flag was moved from the dome to the already existant Confederate Soldier memorial on the state house grounds. The NAACP boycotts were not ended, and even more recently they have begun to argue that the flag should not even be flying at the monument. It turns out that this monument is actually at one of the single most visible spots on the grounds. It is directly at the end of Main St. in downtown Columbia.

I think that IF the flag is going to be flown outdoors and not in a museum, then this is the appropriate place for it. It is part of our history, however dark and twisted that may be, and theres no more historical place in this city than our very own state house. As many of you know, General Sherman marched on this city during his campaign, and it eventually burned, though some argue not at the hands of Sherman's men. Our state house took 6 direct shots from a cannon and was partially burned down. There are monuments and memorials all over those grounds and across the river where the cannons were. We still use a couple buildings that were once used to process cotton and as confederate printing presses.

All of this at one time stood for the CSA...and that flag flew above mens and boys heads as they marched out against seemingly impossible odds to defend their right to govern themselves.



I wont display one on my truck, my house, my webpage, anywhere like that...i believe that it shouldnt be viewed as a racist symbol, though, like everything else, extremists have ruined the image of.

 

to be fair...its actually just a crescent...not a crescent moon

theres no real clear source as to where the crescent came from, though its thought to symbolize defensive prowess...several prominent families from Charleston also had crescents in their previous coats of arms. Charlston troops were carrying a blue banner with 3 crescents on them at one point in the 1770s prior to the creation of the current flag

its placement would indicate a moon, however its used on several flags and placed in several places in various directions