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Old 03-12-2013, 12:07 AM   #41
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:13 AM   #42
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nascar will give a workout, you can tell me it won't after you go out and run a full race.
the concentration, and endurance needed to do 200+ laps at 180+ mph in a hot car ( i think the documentary i watched said the cars are usually 90-110 degrees), should qualify a nascar driver as a athlete.

oh, and le mans drivers, drive for 24 hours strait and tell me it doesn't take something special to do that.
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BS, give me a couple days with one and i'll learn to get it around the track, it's like racing a normal car, just half the weight, twice the power and four times the grip.
Normal race cars are lucky to pull 1.7 g in a corner maybe 2, f1 pulls 3G acceleration, 5 to 6 g braking and 5 g cornering. After one day of trying to drive it your neck would be so sore you wouldn't be able to move it.
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Normal race cars are lucky to pull 1.7 g in a corner maybe 2, f1 pulls 3G acceleration, 5 to 6 g braking and 5 g cornering. After one day of trying to drive it your neck would be so sore you wouldn't be able to move it.

Thats just it. Once a driver is capable of driving a car, that is where the performance goes from a human limitation into a technology limitation.
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nascar will give a workout, you can tell me it won't after you go out and run a full race.
the concentration, and endurance needed to do 200+ laps at 180+ mph in a hot car ( i think the documentary i watched said the cars are usually 90-110 degrees), should qualify a nascar driver as a athlete.

oh, and le mans drivers, drive for 24 hours strait and tell me it doesn't take something special to do that.
Le Mans drivers don't drive 24 hrs straight
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:19 AM   #46
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Thats just it. Once a driver is capable of driving a car, that is where the performance goes from a human limitation into a technology limitation.
So not true , the car is capable of going faster , the driver is the limiting factor
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:20 AM   #47
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:20 AM   #48
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What about Olympic rowing ? Is that all boat ?
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Thats just it. Once a driver is capable of driving a car, that is where the performance goes from a human limitation into a technology limitation.
Tech is always being pushed farther and farther and to make use of the faster car you need to train even harder.
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Le Mans drivers don't drive 24 hrs straight
the le mans i know about they did. it was called the le mans 24 hour, the gt 40 won it 3 times in a row.
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the le mans i know about they did. it was called the le mans 24 hour, the gt 40 won it 3 times in a row.
I know it's a 24hr race , but there is 3 drivers per car , they alternate
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What about Olympic rowing ? Is that all boat ?
Sorry I walked home and forgot about this

The human is producing the power in the rowing, not a engine. The boats and paddles are there to supplement the power to get the desired performance.
But the power comes from the person

Drivers on the other hand supplement the engine, and no power comes from them. The only reason they are able to do what they do is because of an externally generated force.
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Thats just it. Once a driver is capable of driving a car, that is where the performance goes from a human limitation into a technology limitation.
So people driving bobsleds aren't athletes? Thats just falling down an ice tube. Anyone can do that.
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Thats just it. Once a driver is capable of driving a car, that is where the performance goes from a human limitation into a technology limitation.
So maybe I could have worded this a little better
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I know it's a 24hr race , but there is 3 drivers per car , they alternate
interesting, i didn't know that. +1 to you.
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So people driving bobsleds aren't athletes? Thats just falling down an ice tube. Anyone can do that.
Actually anyone can, but this is about motor sports, so start a new thread
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So maybe I could have worded this a little better
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Was Lance Armstrong an athlete , or just a lying cheat that gave himself cancer ?
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