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Old 07-02-2013, 10:09 PM   #321
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I never said it did. im saying that the dog jumping out of the car and charging the cops was the first aggressive move. If that looked like a casual "hey whats up!? Pet me!" type of walk from a dog, then excuse me, i am wrong.
And the cop should have known not to try to move towards the dog at that point. Pretty simple.

Didnt look like he charged them. A dog in defense never turns away from the threat. You see the dog turn away and sniff the ground until the cop made the move for the leash.
 
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Tough debate for both sides of this story. After watching it though I grabbed my dog and gave him a big bear hug
 
Old 07-02-2013, 10:12 PM   #323
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No! kill everything that doesn't obey! Why was dickwad handcuffed---he was videotaping! Hmmm, that's not ok for you?
So, they arrest him (1st amendment violation) and kill his dog. Great moves!
Watch the video.
Call someone who knows canines! The dog unit, I bet they calm fido real quick.
You don't like facts do you?? He was asked to turn down the music in his car and tape from the other side of the street, which is a legal request for the police to make in order to continue their primary task of resolving an armed robbery. He declined to comply...That means he can be detained. (Thats a big word for handcuffed btw).

If the cops had a problem with being videoed....why would they leave the folks across the road rolling tape?? That guy was trying to make trouble and his actions octs his dog it's life in the end.
 
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No! kill everything that doesn't obey! Why was dickwad handcuffed---he was videotaping! Hmmm, that's not ok for you?
So, they arrest him (1st amendment violation) and kill his dog. Great moves!
Watch the video.
Call someone who knows canines! The dog unit, I bet they calm fido real quick.
Yes, while the dog is mowing down my partner (or getting ready to), I'll be sure to radio in the nearest officer/ k-9 unit to come speak "dog whisperer" to the rottweiler and ask why it isn't calm tonight? Seriously?
 
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And the cop should have known not to try to move towards the dog at that point. Pretty simple.

Didnt look like he charged them. A dog in defense never turns away from the threat. You see the dog turn away and sniff the ground until the cop made the move for the leash.
Bingo, the cop tried to take control of the dog without using other means necessary. Like you said, the dog then became aggressive towards the cops. You cant leave the dog roaming the scene posing a threat to other officers who are dealing with the SWAT SITUATION.
 
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That was uncalled for.


I have some mean shit to say, but I'll just wish it on him instead.
 
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Bingo, the cop tried to take control of the dog without using other means necessary. Like you said, the dog then became aggressive towards the cops. You cant leave the dog roaming the scene posing a threat to other officers who are dealing with the SWAT SITUATION.
The dog was never a threat till the cop made it one!
 
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The dog was never a threat till the cop made it one!
bullshit, the dog was a threat the second it jumped out of the car
 
Old 07-02-2013, 10:16 PM   #329
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I'm not going to get hurt while trying to secure the scene, so if the need arises...Yes. It was not the officers first option.
Well ok then.
 
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The dog was never a threat till the cop made it one!
The second the dog jumped out of the window and ran towards the cops who were dealing with the subject, it became a threat.
 
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The dog was never a threat till the cop made it one!
Do not agree. Dog came out of the car when the owner was blocked form view/being lead away. What happens when you turn to put the owner in the car?? You don't know and that means the dog is a variable that needs to be accounted for to ensure officer safety.
 
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And the cop should have known not to try to move towards the dog at that point. Pretty simple.

Didnt look like he charged them. A dog in defense never turns away from the threat. You see the dog turn away and sniff the ground until the cop made the move for the leash.
So you dont believe the dogs behavior was threatening in any manner. it barking, jumping out the car and charging the cops? Got it.

It sucks to see a dog die, a dog that is very clearly loyal for its master. It is a sad shame his own put the dog in that position. yes he tried to put it in the car and could not foresee him jumping out. It is a sad situation where everybody loses. In life you make choices, and some time you choose wrong, and you must live with those consequences. I bet that officer didnt wake up thinking about how he wanted to shoot a mans dog that day. It is a choice he made and will live with. Given how quickly things escalated, i honestly dont know what other reaction you expect. he held his fire until the dog lunged and snapped at him. it was him or the dog. i know your thinking "but the dog wouldnt kill the officer" but that is a mute point. at that point the officer was put in a precarious situation where his health was put at risk. If he let the dog attack him, and tore up his arm and put him out of work for 6 months, he has to spend another 6 months in physical therapy, and thousands of medical bills,where would you stand? the dogs life is more important than that officers well being? No.
 
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and let me be clear, I am not glad, happy, or high-fiving anyone over the dog being shot. As someone who has had to dispatch animals before, it is a sickening feeling. i understand everyone's anger toward the situation but people are directing it toward the wrong people.
 
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I did not see it as a threat. there were more than one cop there. One guy puts the suspect in the car the others keep and eye out. Seems pretty simple almost like something you should do in any situation.

The dog was sniffing the ground, thats not a threat. a threat is the dogs barking uncontrollably at you and snapping repeatedly. The dog made one snap in defense and now its dead.
 
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yes sir. I had to give my pup a big hug after that.
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I did not see it as a threat. there were more than one cop there. One guy puts the suspect in the car the others keep and eye out. Seems pretty simple almost like something you should do in any situation.

The dog was sniffing the ground, thats not a threat. a threat is the dogs barking uncontrollably at you and snapping repeatedly. The dog made one snap in defense and now its dead.
So what? They don't know shit about the dog, don't know if he's rabid, been trained to fight, nothing, he's a threat, in a cop's mind, he is a threat.
 
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I did not see it as a threat. there were more than one cop there. One guy puts the suspect in the car the others keep and eye out. Seems pretty simple almost like something you should do in any situation.

The dog was sniffing the ground, thats not a threat. a threat is the dogs barking uncontrollably at you and snapping repeatedly. The dog made one snap in defense and now its dead.

So you'd watch the dog at a distance of what 8-10 feet to see if he would charge at the officer on custody of the owner and then shoot when it did that?? Or you'd out your body in the way and take the mauling were it too occur??
 
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Its foolish to shoot because you don't know. That would never hold up in court if it was a human.
 
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