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Old 08-02-2013, 12:48 PM   #1
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Frame and A-frame are 2"x3"x1/8" rectangle tube
Tongue is 2.5"x2.5"x.25" square receiver tube
Crossmembers are 2"x2"x.120 square tube
Gussets on every 90* joint
Integrated hitch recovery point (and will be used for bicycle rack) in rear bumper

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Little shoe basket using the ladder and ladder holddown:


Never need to find a bottle opener:


Lockable Home Depot caster I added to the tongue jack:


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Fenders are nice and stout...can be used as steps (as you can see)


Lockable T-handles on all doors:



LED license plate bracket:


Greasable hinges on all doors:



3500 lb 6x5.5 axle with bronze SCS F5's


Electric brake setup including 5 amp hour battery backup:



Fresh Water Setup:







Drain spiggot on water tank:


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LED lights inside tent with little e-bay switch:



Folding camping table nestled between the roof and tent...like I planned it.




Fold down tailgate table:






Modified harbor freight clamps to hold table tight to tailgate in transit:


Stove/Oven on slide-out:







Pleanty of space:



Suspension:
Pro Comp 4" lift springs for the front of a Jeep YJ
WFO Concepts Leaf Spring Hangers (designed to fit a 2" frame and taper out to a 2.5" spring)
WFO Concepts Shackle Hanger (again, designed for a 2" frame)
Homemade 4" shackles
Energy Suspension spring & shackle bushing set (actually designed for a old K5 blazer but the dimensions were exactly what I needed).





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Old 08-02-2013, 12:50 PM   #2
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Well....it's a start anyway


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Old 08-02-2013, 12:51 PM   #3
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Sub'd to this epicness as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:13 PM   #4
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Subbed I guess although this has to be the most boring start to a build ever.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:15 PM   #5
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Subbed I guess although this has to be the most boring start to a build ever.


Throw the man a bone, he doesn't have the years of expertise you've developed.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:20 PM   #6
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:23 PM   #7
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Throw the man a bone, he doesn't have the years of expertise you've developed.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:35 PM   #9
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:46 PM   #10
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Subbed I guess although this has to be the most boring start to a build ever.
I thought it was kinda clever


But ok...more.
The trailer will use a standard 3500 lb trailer axle, with some custom goodies for suspension. Will still be leaf sprung, but definitely not trailer leafs.

I'm waiting for a metric shit ton of parts to come in so the simple stuff is getting knocked out now.

Some simple 5" shackles.
Nothing fancy, just 1/4" plate with a 1"x.188 wall DOM sleeve. Got antsy and already painted them too.



And picked up these u-bolt plates. They are 1/4 plate with a built in pseudo skid plate to protect the u-bolts similar to my truck (trailer will be SUA). The plates are designed to mate a standard 2-3/8" round tube axle to 2.5" wide leaf springs.



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Old 08-02-2013, 01:56 PM   #12
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I thought it was kinda clever too.

Have you looked at the various iterations of the torsion bar axle? Doesn't flex and probably not the greatest for dragging along a trail but they sure pull nice and you get some iteration of suspension too.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:59 PM   #13
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:06 PM   #15
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I thought it was kinda clever too.

Have you looked at the various iterations of the torsion bar axle? Doesn't flex and probably not the greatest for dragging along a trail but they sure pull nice and you get some iteration of suspension too.

From what I researched, torsions are the wrong type of suspension for an offroad trailer. Shit for travel and the rubber just rips apart. They are great for on-road applications. I had torsions on my old toy hauler.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:10 PM   #16
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You know I'm just giving you crap.

I know that it's "fashionable" to use trailing arms and airbags on trailers these days. I'm sure they work well and it's nice to just add air to the bags to level it out with a big load. But there are so many more parts that can fail. I think leaf springs are the right choice. Obviously the trailer springs on mine aren't ideal but they work. Running some longer (maybe custom) spring packs like it sounds like you're doing will be sweet and totally worry free.
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This gonna be one of those long build threads that gets finished in a few years?

On a side note:

I was thinking of using my stock springs off the taco on my trailer. Any reason why I should think of using something different?
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This gonna be one of those long build threads that gets finished in a few years?

On a side note:

I was thinking of using my stock springs off the taco on my trailer. Any reason why I should think of using something different?
This is going to be one of those ONGOING build threads. Most likely it will end up like my truck build thread, occasional updates on the vehicle, mostly BS, probably followed by broken parts that get rebuilt to the point of excess, and occasional pictures of random hotties.

IMO the only problem with the stock taco springs is the amount of spring arch. It's almost non-existant. I see no reason why you couldn't do a SOA setup with them.
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This is going to be one of those ONGOING build threads. Most likely it will end up like my truck build thread, occasional updates on the vehicle, mostly BS, probably followed by broken parts that get rebuilt to the point of excess, and occasional pictures of random hotties.

IMO the only problem with the stock taco springs is the amount of spring arch. It's almost non-existant. I see no reason why you couldn't do a SOA setup with them.
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