Throttle body spacer

piercedtiger · 06-25-2008, 04:52 PM

The thing with the URD Maf Calibrator is it doesn't really change anything until you're above 3,000RPM. If you want to save gas, you'll stay below that mark as much as possible so that won't benefit you much either.

Best mod I've found for mpg increase was an AFE Pro Dry drop in filter. I haven't touched the exhaust yet since I don't want anything that sounds like crap. Intakes are $200-$400 so they aren't worth it either, IMO.

I have the TB spacer. Bought it week I got the truck thinking it would would help too, but I doubt it. Probably should've waited until the try had at least 5,000 miles on it was broken in some, but I didn't. And I'm too lazy to take it off to see if I notice a difference.

chris4x4 · 06-25-2008, 05:41 PM

Throttle Body Spacers work great on a Carbed motor. They do nothing for an injected motor (unless its the old style Chevy MPI) except make a wistle. The injectors on the Toyotas ( and many other makers ) inject the fuel into the combustion chamber at the intake valves. As the Air and Fuel enter the combustion chamber thru the intake valves, they begin to swirl as the valves are on one side of the combustion chamber. The set up is engineered to work with a smooth flow of air comming into the valves, hence the long intake runners. Any affect a Throttle spacer has on the air going thru the MAF is canceled out as the air travles thru the intake runners. Keep in mind that Auto manufactures have toyed with some pretty ecentric thinking when designing these motors. If a $5.00 peice of aluminum would give a free m.p.g. or two, it would be standard equipment.

piercedtiger · 06-25-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

Throttle Body Spacers work great on a Carbed motor. They do nothing for an injected motor (unless its the old style Chevy MPI) except make a wistle. The injectors on the Toyotas ( and many other makers ) inject the fuel into the combustion chamber at the intake valves. As the Air and Fuel enter the combustion chamber thru the intake valves, they begin to swirl as the valves are on one side of the combustion chamber. The set up is engineered to work with a smooth flow of air comming into the valves, hence the long intake runners. Any affect a Throttle spacer has on the air going thru the MAF is canceled out as the air travles thru the intake runners. Keep in mind that Auto manufactures have toyed with some pretty ecentric thinking when designing these motors. If a $5.00 peice of aluminum would give a free m.p.g. or two, it would be standard equipment.

I agree with you mostly, however a $50 (retail) air filter just gave me 2-3mpg improvement so.....

(And it's reusable so it'll cut down on natural resources being used, less landfill, etc....)

chris4x4 · 06-25-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by piercedtiger

I agree with you mostly, however a $50 (retail) air filter just gave me 2-3mpg improvement so.....

(And it's reusable so it'll cut down on natural resources being used, less landfill, etc....)

I havent had a chance to test one of those filters. Could you give me a link to it?

piercedtiger · 06-25-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

I havent had a chance to test one of those filters. Could you give me a link to it?

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...group-buy.html

Bought mine here when they were still $44 with free shipping.
http://www.ultimatetruck.com/product...93&model=21226

Ridgerunner · 06-25-2008, 06:11 PM

oops wrong thread

mark155490 · 06-30-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gdawg25

do you have some number's to back up your claim?

numbers? Its an increase in ur horspower but not enough to notice a difference.all those lil add ons add up tho.

mark155490 · 06-30-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ridingontrd

It does fit?? What i've read says no. Ok i stand corrected. I also stand by waste of money,snake oil.get a pet rock.:d

i got a 95 tacoma and it fits or i couldnt have it on there.maybe cuz ur trucks newer i dont know but mine fits

gdawg25 · 07-01-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mark155490

numbers? Its an increase in ur horspower but not enough to notice a difference.all those lil add ons add up tho.

So how do you know it increases HP? Did it say so on the box?

chris4x4 · 07-01-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mark155490

numbers? Its an increase in ur horspower but not enough to notice a difference.all those lil add ons add up tho.

I have dynoed many throttle body spacers. They DO NOT add any h.p. Most of the drop in filters dont give any h.p. either. We did one test with 2 throttle body spacers, a helix throttly thing, a K & N filter, and a Magnet on the fuel line. That run showed a .6 h.p.

chris4x4 · 07-01-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gdawg25

So how do you know it increases HP? Did it say so on the box?

LMAO! I did a test with an Airaid cold air intake on my Dodge. They said it would give a 20 h.p. gain. I did a baseline run, went to Airaid to have them install their "super intake", went back to the shop and did 2 pulls. The 2 runs showed a solid 3 h.p. gain. I went back to Airaid with the printout and they refunded my money.

Ridingontrd · 07-01-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

LMAO! I did a test with an Airaid cold air intake on my Dodge. They said it would give a 20 h.p. gain. I did a baseline run, went to Airaid to have them install their "super intake", went back to the shop and did 2 pulls. The 2 runs showed a solid 3 h.p. gain. I went back to Airaid with the printout and they refunded my money.

Now that's funny.

Imrubicon · 07-01-2008, 06:25 PM

try stickers as I heard that alone would add 20 HP and 6MPG

Ridingontrd · 07-01-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Imrubicon

try stickers as I heard that alone would add 20 HP and 6MPG

Only a TW sticker from TCBOB will get those kind of ##.K&N only 7hp.

Nailer28 · 07-19-2008, 10:44 AM

dont waste yout money it will fit with the k/n just a little mod to do it but the spacer sucks actually got worse mpg with it on

PwRTRIp_Xr · 07-19-2008, 12:19 PM

Garbage, Only cool whistle sound....

tacoma07 · 08-14-2008, 06:22 PM

i recently got rid of my twelve second chevy silverado due to excessive amounts of speeding tickets and purchased an 07 4x4 tacoma and was wondering what kind of bolt-ons could i slap on it. i was thinking about a k&n, full exhaust, and some kind of tuning and was wondering what tuner was good and dependable, with my chevy i would plug the laptop and custom tune it is that what the maf cal does, or should i just get the power programmer. any suggestions as to which tuner would be best would be greatly appreciated.

piercedtiger · 08-15-2008, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tacoma07

i recently got rid of my twelve second chevy silverado due to excessive amounts of speeding tickets and purchased an 07 4x4 tacoma and was wondering what kind of bolt-ons could i slap on it. i was thinking about a k&n, full exhaust, and some kind of tuning and was wondering what tuner was good and dependable, with my chevy i would plug the laptop and custom tune it is that what the maf cal does, or should i just get the power programmer. any suggestions as to which tuner would be best would be greatly appreciated.

You can't program a Toyota like a domestic. You can do the MAF calibrator if you have a wide band and couple other things I think, but it's only useful above 3,000 RPM. So it's not beneficial all the time.

You can do an AFE Pro Dry filter that won't need to be oil and remove secondary air filter in place of a CAI. Or you can do a TRD or URD supercharger, long tube heads, Y-pipe, full exhaust....

But really, if you got a different vehicle to cut down speeding tickets why put yourself in the same situation again? If you have the V6 it's already powerful enough to get you into trouble.

klown · 08-15-2008, 06:13 AM

Best advice you're gonna read in this whole thread:

Don't buy the TBS, use the money to buy weed.

That is all

06-25-2008, 04:52 PM	#21
piercedtiger Northern Alliance: Mod Guru Joined: Oct 2007, #3284 Location: Newark Valley, NY Age: 28 Posts: 3,400 06 TRD OR DC SB 6SPD 2006 Double Cab Manual 4.0 V6 Bestop canopy, hood struts, relocated 7-pin, 3" Toytec spacer/AAL, 285/75 16 Kumho Roadventure ATs, Hi-Lift mounted in bed, BHLM, fog light mod, turn signal mod, locker mod, driver seat mag light mount, step bars, reinforced tailgate, ABS kill switch, black grill surround, bed lights, rock lights...	The thing with the URD Maf Calibrator is it doesn't really change anything until you're above 3,000RPM. If you want to save gas, you'll stay below that mark as much as possible so that won't benefit you much either. Best mod I've found for mpg increase was an AFE Pro Dry drop in filter. I haven't touched the exhaust yet since I don't want anything that sounds like crap. Intakes are $200-$400 so they aren't worth it either, IMO. I have the TB spacer. Bought it week I got the truck thinking it would would help too, but I doubt it. Probably should've waited until the try had at least 5,000 miles on it was broken in some, but I didn't. And I'm too lazy to take it off to see if I notice a difference. __________________ Like when daddy plays with mommy on her "woman week", I've caught you red handed. Cheap/free mods - Tacoma World Forums

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Nailer28 Junior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7296 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 17 05 tacoma 2005 Double Cab Automatic Billet Grill Dual flowmaster K/n	dont waste yout money it will fit with the k/n just a little mod to do it but the spacer sucks actually got worse mpg with it on

08-14-2008, 06:22 PM	#37
tacoma07 Junior Member Joined: Aug 2008, #8529 Location: texas Posts: 1 silver 2007 Double Cab Automatic stock	i recently got rid of my twelve second chevy silverado due to excessive amounts of speeding tickets and purchased an 07 4x4 tacoma and was wondering what kind of bolt-ons could i slap on it. i was thinking about a k&n, full exhaust, and some kind of tuning and was wondering what tuner was good and dependable, with my chevy i would plug the laptop and custom tune it is that what the maf cal does, or should i just get the power programmer. any suggestions as to which tuner would be best would be greatly appreciated.