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Old 02-25-2011, 01:31 PM   #41
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You could always rotate the snorkle opening around backwards. That's what the guys in our local group do...
i think i would be more inclined to do this in a very dusty situation as well.
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No, I doubt it hinders anything but you may loose that "ram air" affect, and your fuel mileage gains. The guys around here just keep it backwards through the winter then turn it back around during the summer months.
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it almost seems like that would be the way to go...what if you just left it backwards? it wouldnt hinder anything would it?
i think you'd get less of the "ram" effect and not see as good of mpgs, but i dont think it'd hurt anything.
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No, I doubt it hinders anything but you may loose that "ram air" affect, and your fuel mileage gains. The guys around here just keep it backwards through the winter then turn it back around during the summer months.
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i think you'd get less of the "ram" effect and not see as good of mpgs, but i dont think it'd hurt anything.
haha...same time
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^^ even posted at the same minute, guess I was quicker on the enter button. lol
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It's strange on mine and there must be something loose. it is only at a small RPM range when the truck is cold. Do you have a auto or manual. I wonder if engine rock has something to do with the tranny type. Once the truck warms up all is gone usually after about 10 minutes of driving it around.

Thought about and saved the stock intake for the flex portion of it. That is going to be my second route if all else fails.

As far as water and the snorkel I still wonder about snow build up on the face of the snorkel in a blizzard while driving. I will have to keep an eye on that.
I'm auto and my engine doesn't vibrate when warming up at all nor does it while moving. What RPM are you idling at when warming up?

I was talking about it getting ripped off by the car wash.
I drove mine through rain and 60 mph winds with no issues today, but maybe in dry light snow I might turn it around.

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i think i would be more inclined to do this in a very dusty situation as well.
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For a good joke you could always tape someones snorkel shut after pouring down some sugar water
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Joe just picked his up and we were talking about some things people might not wanna do now that they have these on their trucks.

#1: If you use a mechanical car wash - watch out - you might have an issue.

#2: When washing your car don't spray the hose in the intake.

Both common sense, but better to say something now.
Yea when I told my dad I was getting a snorkel he couldnt understand why I would do something that would create a funnel to my air intake
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This would probably be some information you would want to get right from the manufacturer, but from their site:
http://www.safarisnorkel.com/docs/product.htm

"All Safari Charge Air Rams feature a highly effective water separator system built right into the air ram in order to remove rain water from the incoming air stream - thus ensuring safe engine operation through even the most torrential tropical storms."

That would tell me that a mechanical car wash should not be an issue, hell, even shooting a hose at it by mistake shouldn't be an issue. I didn't get one of these yet, so I haven't looked at the internals... but based on what I am reading it should be able to keep water out of the engine even if it gets in the ram air part.

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http://www.landroverweb.com/landrove...d-rain-review/
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I'm auto and my engine doesn't vibrate when warming up at all nor does it while moving. What RPM are you idling at when warming up?

I was talking about it getting ripped off by the car wash.
I drove mine through rain and 60 mph winds with no issues today, but maybe in dry light snow I might turn it around.





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For a good joke you could always tape someones snorkel shut after pouring down some sugar water
I idle at 1200rpm at warm up. Hearing you have an auto as well I will be tearing the inner fender cover out to see what the hell is going on. Something is causing just need to figure it out.

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This would probably be some information you would want to get right from the manufacturer, but from their site:
http://www.safarisnorkel.com/docs/product.htm

"All Safari Charge Air Rams feature a highly effective water separator system built right into the air ram in order to remove rain water from the incoming air stream - thus ensuring safe engine operation through even the most torrential tropical storms."

That would tell me that a mechanical car wash should not be an issue, hell, even shooting a hose at it by mistake shouldn't be an issue. I didn't get one of these yet, so I haven't looked at the internals... but based on what I am reading it should be able to keep water out of the engine even if it gets in the ram air part.

Here is a review:
http://www.landroverweb.com/landrove...d-rain-review/
Good Link give me a bit of piece of mind. But looking at the snorkel hood I cannot figure out how it would separate them. Must be an affect of the air being forced into the snorkel. It must move snow and water to the weep hole on the side of the hood. That's all I can figure out for now. Just glad to know it should not be an issue.
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Ive never had a problem as far as driving in the rain with the snorkel, You can watch the water coming out of the holes in he bottom on the top piece. I wouldnt use a carwash and I try to keep from spraying with the hose when I wash the truck. Only time ive turned it around is when theres snow. I dont know if snows goin to be a problem with it forward but I rather be safe then sorry.
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This would probably be some information you would want to get right from the manufacturer, but from their site:
http://www.safarisnorkel.com/docs/product.htm

"All Safari Charge Air Rams feature a highly effective water separator system built right into the air ram in order to remove rain water from the incoming air stream - thus ensuring safe engine operation through even the most torrential tropical storms."

That would tell me that a mechanical car wash should not be an issue, hell, even shooting a hose at it by mistake shouldn't be an issue. I didn't get one of these yet, so I haven't looked at the internals... but based on what I am reading it should be able to keep water out of the engine even if it gets in the ram air part.

Here is a review:
http://www.landroverweb.com/landrove...d-rain-review/
Nice find John. I would only be concerned with the car wash ripping it off. I did a bunch of driving the other day in the rain and 70mph winds and didn't have any issues.

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I idle at 1200rpm at warm up. Hearing you have an auto as well I will be tearing the inner fender cover out to see what the hell is going on. Something is causing just need to figure it out.

Good Link give me a bit of piece of mind. But looking at the snorkel hood I cannot figure out how it would separate them. Must be an affect of the air being forced into the snorkel. It must move snow and water to the weep hole on the side of the hood. That's all I can figure out for now. Just glad to know it should not be an issue.
I checked my idle yesterday, but after a long day of trail riding and longer night of boozing it up I forgot what I was at

I would just make sure you have clearance for the snorkel and that your motor mounts are OK.

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Ive never had a problem as far as driving in the rain with the snorkel, You can watch the water coming out of the holes in he bottom on the top piece. I wouldnt use a carwash and I try to keep from spraying with the hose when I wash the truck. Only time ive turned it around is when theres snow. I dont know if snows goin to be a problem with it forward but I rather be safe then sorry.
Yea, Ill be turning mine around when it snows the light fluffy stuff.


When I was out yesterday I put the truck through the paces on trail and didn't have any issues with vibes or anything and I was hitting the trails hard and fast.

I did notice a slight gain in noise made by the snorkel when I jumped on the gas. Not sure about performance, but the truck did feel a little more peppy punching the gas from 40mph on. Maybe ram air affect maybe it's all in my head
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OK. Did some poking around yesterday and had my wife jump on the gas while I looked under the hood. the Engine barely moves. Even had her throw it in reverse, keep the brake on, and give it some gas to cause the drivetrain to move. It didn't. So I know all the motor mounts are good.

So today I got supplies - Black Silicone, window flashing (not as cool as yours because I could not find anything without the Aluminum backing), and some new wheel well push pins to hold that plastic fender in place. After opening it up I had no loose nuts and I played around in the fender trying to find something loose. Actually the blue fender flare inserts moved the most so after getting all the flashing in place I topped each blue insert with some ATV to lock them in place. Siliconed around the snorkel itself on the outside (the backside close to the door takes a ton of silicone to fill) and placed flashing in the engine bay side of the opening to seal it off.

Took it for a good drive after that and it seemed to be even quieter. No vibe issues or anything. So the real test will be in the morning when it is a full cold start.

Thanks for the extra tips on the install and hopefully I will have this licked and can move on to the extra project. T case Skid Plate from ATO.
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***Update***

Running smooth today. Must have just been loose parts rattling a bit and when I tacked everything down yesterday the problems went away. Now we will see what sort of fuel economy I can get out of it.
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Running smooth today. Must have just been loose parts rattling a bit and when I tacked everything down yesterday the problems went away. Now we will see what sort of fuel economy I can get out of it.
,Good to see you got everything worked out.
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Running smooth today. Must have just been loose parts rattling a bit and when I tacked everything down yesterday the problems went away. Now we will see what sort of fuel economy I can get out of it.
Good to hear.
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what are the rivets for? I cant find anything mentioning them in the install...
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do you guys thing I should wait until I get the front (relentless) and rear (ato wrap around) bumpers to install the snorkel? I keep thinking it will look dorky without any of those. haha
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Then you will have 3 big projects. I say knock the snorkel out now so you have less to do when the bumpers show up. Who cares what others think you know what you have planned and how it will look in the end.
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