K&N Intake Comparison: 77 Series vs. FIPK

[pidro_el_pirata]

Originally Posted by jhodge83

i have a 77 series and i'll be selling it soon...gonna go back to stock w/ the seconrady removed and order a drop in AFE

Hmm so why are you getting rid of it?

[jhodge83]

drinking too much gas for me...only benefits are at high rpm's and i never go over 2k

[Ben_Schwarz_09]

there is a dude trying to sell a 77 tube in the "Buy/Sell/Trade" tab, it was a few pages in though, and another person was trying to sell their filter for it. So i have heard, the CIAs dont start to help until you get into the high RPMs. I am in the same perdicument, im not sure if i should put in the K&N AirCharger (pt#63-9025) or the AFE Pro_Dry S Air Filter, but i am leaning more towards the filter.

[jhodge83]

Originally Posted by Ben_Schwarz_09

there is a dude trying to sell a 77 tube in the "Buy/Sell/Trade" tab, it was a few pages in though, and another person was trying to sell their filter for it. So i have heard, the CIAs dont start to help until you get into the high RPMs. I am in the same perdicument, im not sure if i should put in the K&N AirCharger (pt#63-9025) or the AFE Pro_Dry S Air Filter, but i am leaning more towards the filter.

just get the afe pro dry and take out the secondary filter and u'll be set. thats what i'm switching to

[Ben_Schwarz_09]

i just talked to AutoAnything, and they said that they would go with the K&N oiled filter, you still have to have a special cleaning solution for the AFE, plus you have to wash the x2...and they are more expensive.

[tacomaman06]

Originally Posted by Ben_Schwarz_09

i just talked to AutoAnything, and they said that they would go with the K&N oiled filter, you still have to have a special cleaning solution for the AFE, plus you have to wash the x2...and they are more expensive.

with an afe...no chance of fouling out the maf sensor from overoiling the filter since it doesnt need oil. you got to have the cleaning kit for k&n too.

[jhodge83]

Originally Posted by Ben_Schwarz_09

i just talked to AutoAnything, and they said that they would go with the K&N oiled filter, you still have to have a special cleaning solution for the AFE, plus you have to wash the x2...and they are more expensive.

i think autoanything has about as much sense for vehicles as 4wheelparts does...big box places like that have no technical knowhow. they probably get a better kickback from K&N than AFE.

and like tacomaman said, the K&N's also have to have a special cleaning regiment...only difference is that u can go to any autoparts store and buy the K&N one.

[Ben_Schwarz_09]

I also ended up calling K&N and they said that their oil does not do anything to the MAFs, that they have dipped one in some oil and tested it, and it still worked to factory specs. Plus i already have the kit for K&N (I had a 20in. round air filter for my '75 Bronco (RIP lil guy))

[pidro_el_pirata]

Originally Posted by tacomaman06

fouling out the maf sensor from overoiling the filter

cleaning kit for k&n too.

Yea i dont think that'll happen. And as for the cleaning kit, so what, I already do it for my dirt bikes. Gotta get your hands dirty sometime.

[Ben_Schwarz_09]

...by the way, the dude @ K&N told me that the FIPK is legal in all 50 states, and the 77 is a chromed tube.

[pidro_el_pirata]

Originally Posted by Ben_Schwarz_09

...by the way, the dude @ K&N told me that the FIPK is legal in all 50 states, and the 77 is a chromed tube.

Meaning what? Is the 77 not legal?

[tacomaman06]

Originally Posted by pidro_el_pirata

Yea i dont think that'll happen. And as for the cleaning kit, so what, I already do it for my dirt bikes. Gotta get your hands dirty sometime.

you dont think that OVER-OILING a k&n filter(or any others for that matter) can foul a maf sensor??? yeah...ok. i never said k&n was a bad filter.......i stated a fact......over-oiling an oiled filter CAN foul the maf sensor.

oh yeah.....i get my hands plenty dirty! just ask tigerfan00 about his truck!

[Ben_Schwarz_09]

Here is the hyperlink for the K&N website where they claim that their oil doesnt mess with the MAF: http://www.knfilters.com/faq.htm#27

And on this page they have videos about it: http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm

I am still wondering if i am going to go with a Drop-In or a CAI, wet (K&N) or dry(AFE)

[tacomaman06]

Originally Posted by Ben_Schwarz_09

Here is the hyperlink for the K&N website where they claim that their oil doesnt mess with the MAF: http://www.knfilters.com/faq.htm#27

And on this page they have videos about it: http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm

I am still wondering if i am going to go with a Drop-In or a CAI, wet (K&N) or dry(AFE)

k&n,and any other filter company out there can make claims about their products all day long..........its their job to sell filters.

start up a new thread on here about over-oiling filters and fouling out a maf sensor..........guarantee you'll have responses about it being true. if you dont over-oil......good deal, the filter will work as it should, over-oil it, and it will end up on the maf sensor wires, and foul it out. you can buy a cleaner to clean the maf if it gets dirty, but do it too much, it can be costly......and thats all im getting at. i ran k$n in both the ford trucks i have had, and an airaid system in my last tacoma.......never had a problem cause i never over-oiled

[Ben_Schwarz_09]

so you have had both tacomaman06? and from your expierence you like the AFE drys better? Alos, do they sell them at any chain auto parts store?

[tacomaman06]

Originally Posted by Ben_Schwarz_09

so you have had both tacomaman06? and from your expierence you like the AFE drys better? Alos, do they sell them at any chain auto parts store?

you gotta order the afe pro dry s online, but we had a group buy here a while back....you may still be able to get the discount. search for that thread though, as im not sure which forum its in. actually.....i like all the filters about the same, some more than others, like the afe....just clean and dry, no oil. the k&n was ok, but you gotta clean/dry/oil dry then reinstall. same way with the airaid that i had.

[Ben_Schwarz_09]

ummmmmm, im not sure about the 77 being legal in all 50 states, i know there is not yet a FIPK for the second generation Tacomas yet, but when the 63 becomes legal in all 50 it becomes a 57 (FIPK) and if you already have it, you call up K&N and they give you a sticker to make it ok. call up K&N and ask them if you wanna get the best answer.

[pidro_el_pirata]

Originally Posted by Ben_Schwarz_09

ummmmmm, im not sure about the 77 being legal in all 50 states, i know there is not yet a FIPK for the second generation Tacomas yet, but when the 63 becomes legal in all 50 it becomes a 57 (FIPK) and if you already have it, you call up K&N and they give you a sticker to make it ok. call up K&N and ask them if you wanna get the best answer.

Hmm, alright thanks man.

Anyone else got some information on this?

Originally Posted by tacomaman06

i never said k&n was a bad filter.......i stated a fact......over-oiling an oiled filter CAN foul the maf sensor.

Haha I know man I was just being cocky and saying that i've been oiling filters for a while now, I know what I'm doin, I won't do that