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Old 05-13-2011, 08:58 PM   #21
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Is there a way to add a couple more PSI in boost to the TRD supercharger? Like a smaller pulley setup or someting?
http://www.urdusa.com/Pulleys-Superc...v53m933jj60qs5
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not tryin to blast on you or anything your doing, but how come you went with the TRD over the URD? seems URD's kit has a lot more bang for its buck
I hear a lot of good things about the URD SC and i have to say the biggest deciding facter in me going with the TRD kit was the fact that it does not void the warranty, i've got 14k miles on my truck and i'm covered til 100k or 8 yrs.

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And (if the OP or anyone cares) you can keep your warranty (if you have one left) with the TRD
definitely care about my warrany lol

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why would the URD blower void your warranty? it is not known to cause problems unless you mess something up or use more boost than capable
I believe Magnuson and TRD joined forces to develop a supercharger that would offer the most power with out exceeding the California Air Resource Board's standards. which is another deciding factor in why i went with TRD over URD. That CARB number is a life saver in the event of a cop checking under the hood.

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Your gonna love it, just put mine in a few weeks ago. I didn't want to stop driving it around. You going to Dyno it?
I'm thinking about it, i want to get the TRD cat back on before i do though.

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if you dont mind me asking how much was that supercharger? (and does anyone know how much they are for 1st gens?)
3890 for parts (trdparts4u.com), daelership install for 800

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Is there a way to add a couple more PSI in boost to the TRD supercharger? Like a smaller pulley setup or someting?
getting a smaller pully would be my first guess. But if you're any bit as worried about the warranty like i am, you wouldn't change it until it expires.




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Just checked out URD's "stock" 2.85" pulley form the 3" one installed... TEMPTING!!!!

http://www.urdusa.com/Pulleys-Superc...duct_info.html

"DISGUISED AS THE FACTORY PULLEY"!!! w/ same part number! seems sketchy though... definitely an option though.
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i understand that you are afraid of your warranty being void, but just installing it does NOT instantly void your warranty, only if the S/C is proven to screw something up, and as long as you do what URD says, i.e. not over boosting before actually building your motor and reinforcing key components, then you have nothing to worry about, look up the magnusson(sp?) warranty act, if you have that document and read it and understand it then you have no reason to be afraid to modify your truck "outside manufacturer specs" so to speak, me personally would have went with the URD, much more room for growth and HP!!!!!!!! to me the TRD just seems to be too conservative
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i understand that you are afraid of your warranty being void, but just installing it does NOT instantly void your warranty, only if the S/C is proven to screw something up, and as long as you do what URD says, i.e. not over boosting before actually building your motor and reinforcing key components, then you have nothing to worry about, look up the magnusson(sp?) warranty act, if you have that document and read it and understand it then you have no reason to be afraid to modify your truck "outside manufacturer specs" so to speak, me personally would have went with the URD, much more room for growth and HP!!!!!!!! to me the TRD just seems to be too conservative
1st

"If i went with the URD supercharger and anything in the drive train failed on me at 90k miles, it would not be covered because of the non toyota or TRD part that was installed..." Straight from the service dept. manager at the dealership which i bought my tacoma from. Because of the fact that toyota would blame the non TRD or toyota part for the damages caused to the engine, transmission etc. etc. 100% of the time. i understand if you dont exceed boost pressure or whatever URD advises that everything should be fine. Toyota will still not cover it, even though i did not exceed URD specs. Also I doubt if URD would shell out any money to fix damages, that may be caused by their supercharger.



2nd

Still waiting for an email back from URD but i am 99% sure that their supercharger kits are not built to meet or exceed the California air resource board's standards, making the supercharger 50 state emissions legal. Since i reside in California this is also a make or break factor. I believe it states...

Legal in California Only for Racing Vehicles Which May Never be Used on a Highway



at the end of their supercharger add.

http://www.urdusa.com/Forced-Inducti...duct_info.html




Good luck getting smogged in california with out that CARB cert number.




In Texas, i'm sure you can get away with a lot more and it definitely may be worth it for you to go with URD to supercharge your Tacoma. But for me, since i live in California and drive my vehicle daily on the highway, it would not. The fact of the matter is, it is specifically stated in my warranty, that "Alteration of tampering, including installation of non-geniune Toyota accessories" "installation of non-genuine Toyota parts" are not covered. Even if i did what URD says and not over boost w/o doing other necessary engine modifications, I would not be able to tell Toyota that (with intentions of them honoring my warranty) in the event of mechanical failure. So besides the fact that it is most definitely not covered by my factory warranty, it is also ILLEGAL. That is why i went TRD over URD.
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"If i went with the URD supercharger and anything in the drive train failed on me at 90k miles, it would not be covered because of the non toyota or TRD part that was installed..." Straight from the service dept. manager at the dealership which i bought my tacoma from. Because of the fact that toyota would blame the non TRD or toyota part for the damages caused to the engine, transmission etc. etc. 100% of the time. i understand if you dont exceed boost pressure or whatever URD advises that everything should be fine. Toyota will still not cover it, even though i did not exceed URD specs. Also I doubt if URD would shell out any money to fix damages, that may be caused by their supercharger.



2nd

Still waiting for an email back from URD but i am 99% sure that their supercharger kits are not built to meet or exceed the California air resource board's standards, making the supercharger 50 state emissions legal. Since i reside in California this is also a make or break factor. I believe it states...

Legal in California Only for Racing Vehicles Which May Never be Used on a Highway



at the end of their supercharger add.

http://www.urdusa.com/Forced-Inducti...duct_info.html




Good luck getting smogged in california with out that CARB cert number.




In Texas, i'm sure you can get away with a lot more and it definitely may be worth it for you to go with URD to supercharge your Tacoma. But for me, since i live in California and drive my vehicle daily on the highway, it would not. The fact of the matter is, it is specifically stated in my warranty, that "Alteration of tampering, including installation of non-geniune Toyota accessories" "installation of non-genuine Toyota parts" are not covered. Even if i did what URD says and not over boost w/o doing other necessary engine modifications, I would not be able to tell Toyota that (with intentions of them honoring my warranty) in the event of mechanical failure. So besides the fact that it is most definitely not covered by my factory warranty, it is also ILLEGAL. That is why i went TRD over URD.

How much different is your MPG since this was installed?
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How much different is your MPG since this was installed?
Not too much different. I can say that if i keep my foot out of it, it might not be much different than stock. But since i'ts new, i'm on i a lot more and my needle has been going down a lot quicker

From what i understand though, since the engine has more power, it no longer needs as much power to move the vehicle down the road so you should see a slight inscrease in gas mileage. Not sure right now though.
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i understand that you are afraid of your warranty being void, but just installing it does NOT instantly void your warranty, only if the S/C is proven to screw something up, and as long as you do what URD says, i.e. not over boosting before actually building your motor and reinforcing key components, then you have nothing to worry about, look up the magnusson(sp?) warranty act, if you have that document and read it and understand it then you have no reason to be afraid to modify your truck "outside manufacturer specs" so to speak, me personally would have went with the URD, much more room for growth and HP!!!!!!!! to me the TRD just seems to be too conservative

Recieved word from URD

Their superchargers are not CARB certified.

and

They do not make superchargers for anything newer than 2008

So not only does it void warranty, it's illegal to use on the streets of California and it doesnt exist for my truck.
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1st

"If i went with the URD supercharger and anything in the drive train failed on me at 90k miles, it would not be covered because of the non toyota or TRD part that was installed..." Straight from the service dept. manager at the dealership which i bought my tacoma from. Because of the fact that toyota would blame the non TRD or toyota part for the damages caused to the engine, transmission etc. etc. 100% of the time. i understand if you dont exceed boost pressure or whatever URD advises that everything should be fine. Toyota will still not cover it, even though i did not exceed URD specs. Also I doubt if URD would shell out any money to fix damages, that may be caused by their supercharger.



2nd

Still waiting for an email back from URD but i am 99% sure that their supercharger kits are not built to meet or exceed the California air resource board's standards, making the supercharger 50 state emissions legal. Since i reside in California this is also a make or break factor. I believe it states...

Legal in California Only for Racing Vehicles Which May Never be Used on a Highway



at the end of their supercharger add.

http://www.urdusa.com/Forced-Inducti...duct_info.html




Good luck getting smogged in california with out that CARB cert number.




In Texas, i'm sure you can get away with a lot more and it definitely may be worth it for you to go with URD to supercharge your Tacoma. But for me, since i live in California and drive my vehicle daily on the highway, it would not. The fact of the matter is, it is specifically stated in my warranty, that "Alteration of tampering, including installation of non-geniune Toyota accessories" "installation of non-genuine Toyota parts" are not covered. Even if i did what URD says and not over boost w/o doing other necessary engine modifications, I would not be able to tell Toyota that (with intentions of them honoring my warranty) in the event of mechanical failure. So besides the fact that it is most definitely not covered by my factory warranty, it is also ILLEGAL. That is why i went TRD over URD.

OK lets say your engine was to malfunction in any way, they cannot simply void your warranty because you installed an aftermarket part, whether it be a Toyota part or not, they have to PROVE that the part installed is what caused the malfunction(The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)), i can however understand the whole CARB. legal and emissions thing since you do live in California, sorry i must have missed that you lived in California,(or failed to even look for that matter) and have to abide by the bogus laws that California has, i was not tryin to start a fight by any means, was just wondering why.........i will stop bugging you now, haha
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Recieved word from URD

Their superchargers are not CARB certified.

and

They do not make superchargers for anything newer than 2008

So not only does it void warranty, it's illegal to use on the streets of California and it doesnt exist for my truck.
maybe they havent tested it on anything newer than an 08 yet, but they are the same engine....the TRD s/c that you installed on you truck will work on an 05, and vice-versa
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OK lets say your engine was to malfunction in any way, they cannot simply void your warranty because you installed an aftermarket part, whether it be a Toyota part or not, they have to PROVE that the part installed is what caused the malfunction(The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)), i can however understand the whole CARB. legal and emissions thing since you do live in California, sorry i must have missed that you lived in California,(or failed to even look for that matter) and have to abide by the bogus laws that California has, i was not tryin to start a fight by any means, was just wondering why.........i will stop bugging you now, haha

No worries, california does have bogus emissions laws, agreeeeed there
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maybe they havent tested it on anything newer than an 08 yet, but they are the same engine....the TRD s/c that you installed on you truck will work on an 05, and vice-versa

From gadget at URD

"our kit fits 2008. we hope to have the ECU connector plugs soon to cover the later ones.

our supercharger kit is not CARB approved"

It'd be nice if they were legal for me and made it for my truck. they do have some pretty impressive results.
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From gadget at URD

"our kit fits 2008. we hope to have the ECU connector plugs soon to cover the later ones.

our supercharger kit is not CARB approved"

It'd be nice if they were legal for me and made it for my truck. they do have some pretty impressive results.
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