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Old 01-01-2012, 05:51 PM   #21
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I run 33's with stock gears and have yet to notice any power differance
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I run 33's with stock gears and have yet to notice any power differance
Unless you havent updated your truck info to the left 305/65-R16's are not 33's... Try 31.5"s....

I know to most guys this <---------------------> looks like it is 6 inches but you should really measure more accurately.
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tire calculater says 32.56"
the ruler says 32 3/4"
thats really close enough to call 33"
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Threads like this always make me nervous because usually there's a ton of chiming in without any information.

OP: Depending on what you want to do with your truck, both ratios are good choices. 4.10 and 33" tires gives you ratios roughly equivalent to stock, so you will see stock-like power and RPMs, slightly better around-town mileage, and slightly worse highway mileage compared to what you're getting now.

4.56 will be an overgear for 33s. This is good for wheeling, not so good for daily driving. Your mileage will suffer considerably on the highway. However, if you wheel (which you don't), they will offer a LOT more control in obstacles.

For you, I would recommend 4.10 gears.

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You can either go with power and/or gears. Because I have the extra power from the S/C I dont need to gear so high, so I think the tax returns are going to 4.10 gears and arb lockers front and rear.
Power and gears are not identical offroad. Increased engine output does nothing to help you descend steep grades or maintain control in the rocks. While extra power is nice, it's only nice if it's geared correctly.
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tire calculater says 32.56"
the ruler says 32 3/4"
thats really close enough to call 33"


My bad, I had a 16" rim put in not a 17.

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Power and gears are not identical offroad. Increased engine output does nothing to help you descend steep grades or maintain control in the rocks. While extra power is nice, it's only nice if it's geared correctly.
The power is good for turning the tires. A lot of people dont think about descending down a hill so very good point on that one. Most people only think about the power/gears to turn the heavier tires on and offroad which is what I was talking about as well. I have the power to turn the heavier tires, be it 33 or 35" tires. I want to go with 4.10's because its a good blend of still getting decent performance/milage on the street and still plenty of offroad torque.

Point in case is having the 2.7L engine, your going to need to gear a TON higher to get the torque/power to turn 35's. At that point your truck will be almost unusable on the freeway.

I didnt mean to say that gears and power are the same thing. If I was going for strictly a offroad machine than it would be gears all the way but I can balence my truck with a little of both because I have more of one currently than the other, most people gear higher because they dont.
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Thanks for the info and yes I do wheel my truck just not the same way you wheel your
Oh no doubt, you are LT. I wouldnt expect us to wheel the same. Each person has there own needs with there truck.
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The power is good for turning the tires. A lot of people dont think about descending down a hill so very good point on that one. Most people only think about the power/gears to turn the heavier tires on and offroad which is what I was talking about as well. I have the power to turn the heavier tires, be it 33 or 35" tires. I want to go with 4.10's because its a good blend of still getting decent performance/milage on the street and still plenty of offroad torque.

Point in case is having the 2.7L engine, your going to need to gear a TON higher to get the torque/power to turn 35's. At that point your truck will be almost unusable on the freeway.

I didnt mean to say that gears and power are the same thing. If I was going for strictly a offroad machine than it would be gears all the way but I can balence my truck with a little of both because I have more of one currently than the other, most people gear higher because they dont.

True. It'll bring the power back, and for a lot of people, that's all that's needed.


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I'm actually mid travel
Do you just have spacers on your wheels as well? I am mid travel and my tires dont stick out anywhere near that far.
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Thanks... Thats still considered a mid travel truck? Interesting, I digress... On your little truck sig on the right it says you want to go up to 34"s, any plan on doing that in the near future?
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I have them, and i freaking love them.
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Thanks... Thats still considered a mid travel truck? Interesting, I digress... On your little truck sig on the right it says you want to go up to 34"s, any plan on doing that in the near future?
not the near future i was going to get 34's but htey were on national back order around this time last year so i went with 33's mickey thompsons atz so i got alot of miles left on these
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Threads like this always make me nervous because usually there's a ton of chiming in without any information.

OP: Depending on what you want to do with your truck, both ratios are good choices. 4.10 and 33" tires gives you ratios roughly equivalent to stock, so you will see stock-like power and RPMs, slightly better around-town mileage, and slightly worse highway mileage compared to what you're getting now.

4.56 will be an overgear for 33s. This is good for wheeling, not so good for daily driving. Your mileage will suffer considerably on the highway. However, if you wheel (which you don't), they will offer a LOT more control in obstacles.

For you, I would recommend 4.10 gears.



Power and gears are not identical offroad. Increased engine output does nothing to help you descend steep grades or maintain control in the rocks. While extra power is nice, it's only nice if it's geared correctly.

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not the near future i was going to get 34's but htey were on national back order around this time last year so i went with 33's mickey thompsons atz so i got alot of miles left on these
Ah ok... I was wondering because if you were going to do 34's you might as well do the 4.56. Ultimately its your decision and hat works best for you, cant let me or any of the other arm chair experts tell you what to do. Either way you have a sick truck that is only getting better. Would love to wheel with you some day.
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Ah ok... I was wondering because if you were going to do 34's you might as well do the 4.56. Ultimately its your decision and hat works best for you, cant let me or any of the other arm chair experts tell you what to do. Either way you have a sick truck that is only getting better. Would love to wheel with you some day.
Well if I ever come to the dark sode of the moon with my truck I would go wheeling with yah
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