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Old 07-13-2012, 05:31 PM   #21
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supercharge it and get 300 hp for a lot less headache and easier

Supercharge and only get 300??? Thats a damn shame, waste of parts and money. you can get 300 going N/A all damn day on the 4.0

Internals, management and the right turbo/super and 600 is very attainable.
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Supercharge and only get 300??? Thats a damn shame, waste of parts and money. you can get 300 going N/A all damn day on the 4.0

Internals, management and the right turbo/super and 600 is very attainable.
How much more do you have to spend to get 300 NA horsepower?
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Punk Pony is Balboa. He used to regular Custom Tacos. Hasn't been any progress on his engine in quite some time. They did twin charge it, and get the kit "running" but never properly/safely tuned and running 100%. Shame.....it has potential.

Damn shame. Hopefully someday then, I'm reading over on XR-underground, this guy has built the shit out of his as he races it, but also seems to have fallen off the map as well. Check out his forward facing manifold if you havent already seen it.

http://www.xr-underground.com/forum/...=34492&page=13
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How much more do you have to spend to get 300 NA horsepower?
Depending on pistons, $600-1100, higher compression necessary. Rods if you are in there. $1200. Not all that necessary if staying N/A, unless raising the rev limiter. Then replacing the the head gaskets and studs....

Of course then an aftermarket EMS to properly run things.....That price has a decent range on it.

If looking for 300 wtq, though, it will be much easier. Intake, headers, pulleys, EMS, light weight flywheel, light wheels.
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Depending on pistons, $600-1100, higher compression necessary. Rods if you are in there. $1200. Not all that necessary if staying N/A, unless raising the rev limiter. Then replacing the the head gaskets and studs....

Of course then an aftermarket EMS to properly run things.....That price has a decent range on it.

If looking for 300 wtq, though, it will be much easier. Intake, headers, pulleys, EMS, light weight flywheel, light wheels.
Seems like a blower is just plain easier for 300. Bolt on and go.
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Damn shame. Hopefully someday then, I'm reading over on XR-underground, this guy has built the shit out of his as he races it, but also seems to have fallen off the map as well. Check out his forward facing manifold if you havent already seen it.

http://www.xr-underground.com/forum/...=34492&page=13
Baja 1GR. I like his build, and am really interested in an intake similar to his. Although, I won't run my injectors internally. Since i have an upgraded fuel rail.
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Seems like a blower is just plain easier for 300. Bolt on and go.
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Quite, sir. Quite.
Agreed, quite damn easy, however how long will that last with no management at all?

If you want the quickest way to 300, borrow a bottle of NOS from someone and push the little red button, you will see 300++++++++++...

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Agreed, quite damn easy, however how long will that last with no management at all?


If you just throw on a TRD S/C (complete stock as it comes outta the box) you never really have an issue with reliability (no more then a N/A motor)
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Also, the cams that are in Punk Pony's/Balboa's engine, are worked by Web Cam, out of Cali. They maintain the base circle of the factory cam, by welding on addition material to the lobes, then grinding to the specific degrees that you want. Simply regrinding the cam to a different degree is not good on our cams because you lose the base circle. Which is mainly affected by the fact that we have cams on shim buckets. Non adjustable. Only can replace cam buckets with thicker ones.
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Baja 1GR. I like his build, and am really interested in an intake similar to his. Although, I won't run my injectors internally. Since i have an upgraded fuel rail.
I would be paranoid as shit about them being internal, but thats me not being educated on internal injectors. Fear of the unknown unknown.
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I would be paranoid as shit about them being internal, but thats me not being educated on internal injectors. Fear of the unknown unknown.
F1 style. It is common and proven, with the injectors.

As for the TRD s/c, there are options. For the simplistic, the Toyota reflash. Safe and effective. Even works on turbos. Or go upgraded EMS. No problem.
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F1 style. It is common and proven, with the injectors.

As for the TRD s/c, there are options. For the simplistic, the Toyota reflash. Safe and effective. Even works on turbos. Or go upgraded EMS. No problem.
Personally I would go piggy back(if can be made to work on 1gr ECU, or just plain stand alone.)

Some of the biggest issues with this motor and Performance parts, is that there is no real demand, you got 5 guys asking for it, and the other 250k are like nah im good.
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Agreed, quite damn easy, however how long will that last with no management at all?

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If you just throw on a TRD S/C (complete stock as it comes outta the box) you never really have an issue with reliability (no more then a N/A motor)
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F1 style. It is common and proven, with the injectors.

As for the TRD s/c, there are options. For the simplistic, the Toyota reflash. Safe and effective. Even works on turbos. Or go upgraded EMS. No problem.
You can do it so can I, see Torspd's comment, REFLASH!!!!!

So go ahead bolt it on with out doing it, run lean burn up your valve and rings and see how your sitting for "bolt-on power"
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You can do it so can I, see Torspd's comment, REFLASH!!!!!

So go ahead bolt it on with out doing it, run lean burn up your valve and rings and see how your sitting for "bolt-on power"
Well the flash is part of the blower install. If you run without it you are a derp and deserve a burnt up engine.
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You can do it so can I, see Torspd's comment, REFLASH!!!!!

So go ahead bolt it on with out doing it, run lean burn up your valve and rings and see how your sitting for "bolt-on power"
The TRD reflash is part of the S/C install (it's kinda of implied and in the instructions when installing it) so if you fail to do this part you probably failed at installing the S/C right in the first place.
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Well the flash is part of the blower install. If you run without it you are a derp and deserve a burnt up engine.
HAHAHA derp derp. Derps are there for our enjoyment.

But is that included if you buy opting to install yourself?
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HAHAHA derp derp. Derps are there for our enjoyment.

But is that included if you buy opting to install yourself?
You would have to have the dealer flash it. Probably $90.
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