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  1. Nov 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM
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    What kind of PSI readings are you gettin' outta' your S/C..??!
    I have the 4.0 S/C in a '13, and was getting 5-6ish readings off my AEM Digital gauge @ WOT....I put on the Stealth URD 2.8"pulley, and now bouncing around 8..(even saw 9 pop up a few times when the weather was cool).. curious if any of you have the 2.55"... and PSI #'s with it....
     
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    I don't have an S/C so I have no numbers to offer, but this is going to vary greatly depending on elevation as well.

    Example from another thread:
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2013 at 1:58 PM
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    Thanks Brady :)

    OP, tacomaworld isn't generally the place for real performance related questions. You're generally better of over at XRU. However, a few of us are boosted and have some knowledge on the subject. With the 2.55" pulley you will probably see numbers in the 12-13 range if you are seeing nearly 9 with the 2.8.

    However, you can't just slap that pulley on there and hope for the best. There are a lot of things that will need to be done FIRST. If you haven't got a new fuel pump yet that would be step one. The Walbro 255 won't cut it, you'd need something bigger than that even. Youll need larger injectors... the stock TRD ones barely handle the 2.8. You will need advanced fuel management as the stock reflash won't handle the additional boost. At that point you'd be smart to consider some sort of engine building as well to support the additional power. Last but not least you will likely at the very least need the valve body upgrade for your transmission.

    I may be forgetting something but I'd just like to point out that the jump from the 2.8" to the 2.5" is quite a big one, and you are assuming quite a bit more risk as well... I'm not saying don't do it, but just weigh all the costs involved.
     
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    :facepalm: Didn't think to mention XRU. haha

    I thought about mentioning getting forged pistons and rods, but I have no idea when you would start to approach that area, so I didn't want to say stuff I don't know. haha But after seeing you mention all that you have, I would say forged rods and pistons are a must at that point or you will blow your motor...
     
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    Here, I will put together a parts list right now for you to put it in perspective... Gimme just a few min.
     
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    PARTS LIST that will get the most out of your truck while still keeping it somewhat reliable:

    Supercharger Pulley: $162
    S/C Snout Cutter: $110
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    New Intake: $400
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    Engine Management (URD or AEM): $1800
    Hi-Flow injectors + Harnesses: $440
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    New fuel pump: $150
    Rods and Pistons aren't a terrible idea either: $1800
    Valve Body Upgrade: $600

    TOTAL: ~$6400

    So as you can see there's a little bit to take on when it comes to switching down to the 2.55". If you are searching for just a bit more there are some people who have gotten away with going to the 2.7" with just the FPR mod over what you have now and are still on the TRD reflash. The mod helps maintain fuel pressure at all times.

    The voice of reason tells me to tell you to bank that money and enjoy the truck for what it is. A FAST PICKUP. Take that money and put it towards a car that can actually utilize the power and put it to the ground, and as I am sure you have come to realize these trucks can't. I recently had the same thoughts as you, but after realizing all that goes into giving the truck maybe an extra 40 horse I decided it just wasn't worth it and I would turn my sights to a weekend warrior vehicle... Do what you will I just wanted to inform you.
     
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    Always remeber, elevation and free flow from exhaust will affect the reading.
     
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    You shut your whore mouths I got this! :p

    I knew you guys would be here, welcome! OP, anything that I don't know these two gentlemen can certainly fill in the blanks.
     
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    Stock pulley : 5.5-6 psi.
    URD stealth 2.85" : 7.5 psi (dyno: 298 RWHP and 326 lbs)
     
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  11. Nov 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM
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    Haha. You got this.
     
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    ^whore mouth. :devil:
     
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    Thanx Mammary for puttin' together the list...I'm obviously not gonna wrap that kinda' coin into those MOD's just to gain a coupla ponies in a pickup truck..just like seein' what the boys have done to max out their Taco's...stickin with the 2.85", TRD Cat Backs Walbro255, FPR, to get what I can outta' this puppy.....Now my Prius is a whole different ballgame....(48,at the wheels,,lookin' for 50..any ideas..?):burnrubber:
     
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    Actually could use 'em for my Viper Remote ...been kinda' slo respondin' here lately...
     
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    Low elevation and stock exhaust starting with manifolds back; i guess that could happen 9 psi on 2.8 pulley...:cool: I assume you don't have the d-vvti engine and tvs trd blower cause you have the 2.8 pulley...

    When does the d-vvti engine start for the tacoma trucks? 2015??
     
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    4.0 TRD S/C comes with the 3" pulley..you can goes as small as that before having to do any Fuel rail and ECU Mods?(reflash), as you would with the 2.7"
    and the 2.55"...With all my other mods, and the TRD cat back exhaust in right conditions I have flashed a 9 here and there,,,,more busy watching AFR gauge at WOT....!!
     
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    TRD reflash + FPR mod can take the nst kit and 2.8 which has a higher ratio for more boost than the 2.7 apr pulley alone. This combo has been tested and driven harder than most could fathom.

    9 psi seems high for the 2.8 alone; but looking at your mod list seems you only upgraded the catback, which the stock catback is the least restrictive of the 3 exhaust components so it may be possible... LIke Torspd was saying, more restrictive the exhaust, higher the psi for boost;)

    you're right though, afr is very important; if you still have the stock exhaust mani's, where you tap the sensor in for readings?
     
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REXBETI Digital Micrometer, Professional Inch/Metric Measuring Tools 0.00005"/0.001 mm Resolution Thickness Gauge, Protective Case with Extra Battery
$43.99
Denso 234-4261 Oxygen Sensor with 4-Wire 10” Harness for Lexus/Toyota V-6 Downstream Left/Front
$47.12
NGK (4441) RC-TX67 Spark Plug Wire Set
$44.74
Pennzoil Platinum Euro Full Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil (1-Quart, Case of 6)
$44.05
Oetiker 17800175 Stainless Steel Self-Tensioning Steples Hose Clamp, Bolted, 9 mm Band Width, 30 mm - 36 mm Hose OD Range (Pack of 10)
$45.25
MAS Set of 4 Ignition Coils Pack Compatible with Toyota Celica GT Corolla Matrix MR2 Pontiac Vibe Chevrolet Prizm L4 1.8L Replacement for UF247 C1249 UF315
$44.95
Walker Products 250-24154 4-Wire Oxygen Sensor
$49.97
OEMTOOLS 25914 2 Jaw 5-Ton Puller
$49.90
4x HPS 3"-3.31" (76mm-84mm) Marine 316 Stainless Steel T-Bolt Hose Clamp 2-3/4" (70mm) Hose ID
$37.15
Pulley Idler Febest 0187-GRJ200 OEM 16620-31012
$35.95
Painless Performance 50102 Fuel Pump Relay Kit
$37.27
Continental OE Technology Series 4070834 7-Rib, 83.4" Multi-V Belt
$36.28
Super Bright Offroad LED Fog & Driving Light/Pods Light, 3.5" Round Compact Size for Truck/SUV, 6000K Cool-White Long-Range 10° Spot Beam, Corrosion/Vibration Resistant Waterproof, 12V/24V DC, 2-Pack
$39.97
5203-2NSL Nachi Double Row Angular Contact Bearing 17x40x17.5 Sealed
$39.94
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