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Noise coming from front of engine.

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Comatose, Aug 23, 2014.

  1. Aug 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM
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    Comatose

    Comatose [OP] You snuff it, we stuff it.

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    Hey TW,

    So recently a noise has caught my attention and has been getting louder. It happens when the engine idles at its lowest which make me think its a pulley. Its not the belt and its not idler pulleys (I jumped the gun and bought new pulleys and serp belt and replaced them). Its like a chirping that you would here when something is rubbing wrong like a bad bearing in a pulley. It gets louder when the A/C is engaged which leads me towards the compressor clutch pulley... but when i was in there replacing the idlers, I accidentally spun the fan and there was a slight chirp that happens when the cooling fan pulley rotates slow. I still wonder why the A/C on would make it louder other than there is an extra load on the loop. What do you guys think? :confused:
     
  2. Aug 23, 2014 at 1:46 PM
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    The radiator fan is making the sound? IMO it should NOT. Is there any stain on the fan shaft? Like the bearing is leaking?
    Not sure about your year. But I never had an auto that the fan clutch makes any noise.
     
  3. Aug 23, 2014 at 1:47 PM
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  4. Aug 23, 2014 at 2:05 PM
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    Do not believe the waterpump would be the noise if he spun the fan with the engine off. If the engine was running--i would agree.
    Is there a fan clutch on his model?
     
  5. Aug 23, 2014 at 2:54 PM
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    I'm on duty today but I will take a vid tomorrow so you guys can hear it. I considered the water pump as well I'm just not sure the noise would be as pronounced under the timing cover. Yes there's a fan clutch.
     
  6. Aug 23, 2014 at 7:42 PM
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    It was just now that I realized that this is not my 92 4runner... The serpentine belt spins the waterpump via the fan pulley doesnt it...
     
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    imm go tear shit apart in the truck then :angrygirl:
     
  10. Aug 27, 2014 at 8:44 AM
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    Should be public now.
     
  11. Aug 27, 2014 at 8:45 AM
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    Also the belt squeals now when the engine is cold. And the goes away after about 5 to 10 mins of driving.
     
  12. Aug 27, 2014 at 9:00 AM
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    Tensioner gone bad?
     
  13. Aug 27, 2014 at 9:09 AM
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    Since that is what sets the tension for the belt, it could very well cause an issue. Watch the "arm" of the tensioner. It should remain constant. If it jumps around then the tensioner spring is bad and the tensioner should be replaced.
     
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    Another way to isolate EXACTLY where the noise originates-Use a LONG screwdriver or metal object-put one end to where you believe the noise originates(not on a moving part)-and the other to your ear(of course).
    BAMAToy--knows his stuff!! check his post first!!
    Keep us posted.
     
  15. Aug 27, 2014 at 5:17 PM
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    Comatose [OP] You snuff it, we stuff it.

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    Whole new issue now... I found where the squealing came from. There is oil all over the front of the engine. I found what looks likes a gasket or seal hanging from around the back of the crankshaft pulley... it's about 4 inches wide... so it can't be the front crankshaft seal. What the hell could it be? No auto parts stores know what it is.
     
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  16. Aug 27, 2014 at 5:44 PM
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    Watching it run the crankshaft pulley has a wobble to it as well... That shouldn't happen should it?
     
  17. Aug 28, 2014 at 4:51 AM
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    If the crankshaft front seal is bad, will that allow a little travel on the crankshaft pulley?
     
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    OK, from what I read in these three quotes, I am guessing one of two things.

    1. The harmonic balancer has had a piece of the dampening rubber come loose from the back side, and has caught up into the front main seal, causing an oil leak.

    2. A piece of the belt, or piece of an older belt, has gotten caught up behind the balancer, and has caught up into the front main seal, causing an oil leak.


    Either way, pull the balancer and inspect it. If the balancer is wobbling, then you should replace it anyway since there is a high risk of throwing a belt.
     
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    Have you fixed your issue?...was experiencing the same thing with my 99' 2.7L and that "wobble" turned into a sheared woodruff key on my crank and a destroyed oil pump/front crank seal and a chewed up crankshaft...procrastination can be
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