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Old 06-21-2009, 07:09 PM   #21
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Okay. Well now I have a line through NST Pulleys.

So...
DTLTH

What else? Is there anything or should I start saving lol?
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At the risk of sounding retarded... what's a test pipe?
it replaces your cat.
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or u can go for a HIGH FLOW CAT, the test pipes won't pass smog.
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what about tuning it. take it to a dyno and maybe have them mess with the fuel/air ratio.
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or u can go for a HIGH FLOW CAT, the test pipes won't pass smog.
I don't believe there is a high flow cat for the 2nd gen yet, but I may be mistakened.
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Can your mother's highlander keep up with you towing, offroad, and cargo capacity?

When someone complains about their trucks racing performance, most of me just wants to say "you bought the wrong kind of vehicle".
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But I just don't know if you get much gain out of them.
You will have a quicker rev through the RPM band which will get you to that much needed HP faster. So yes for accelleration, you will feel a slight increase. Easy to install, and price for the full set is worth it.

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They reduce the parasitic drag created from turning other components. Not a big gain, and it comes at the expense of underdriving you alternator, water pump, etc....
Chris, you are the Guru on this forum, and your statement is somewhat acurate, but my concern is that the NST pulleys are light weight, and not underdrive pullies.

Please correct me if im mistaken, but underdrive pullies change the size of the actuall pulley that is needing to be underdriven. And LW pulleys just reduce weight, allowing for the same performance increase as running an E-Fan vs stock.
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or u can go for a HIGH FLOW CAT, the test pipes won't pass smog.
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I don't believe there is a high flow cat for the 2nd gen yet, but I may be mistakened.
Universal HF Cats welded in the same spot as stock would work
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:11 PM   #29
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Chris, you are the Guru on this forum, and your statement is somewhat acurate, but my concern is that the NST pulleys are light weight, and not underdrive pullies.

Please correct me if im mistaken, but underdrive pullies change the size of the actuall pulley that is needing to be underdriven. And LW pulleys just reduce weight, allowing for the same performance increase as running an E-Fan vs stock.
Thanks, for the kind words, but I dont think Im a guru....I have been wrong in the past on things. ....That being said, yes, they are light weight. I was thinking they also had underdrive pullies. Reducing rotating mass is a good way to get performance, but it comes with a price. Much like the lighter flywheels use in raceing vehicles, they help, but in a street application, they can cause an engine to be more prone to stalling out. I dont think the affects of a light weight pully, or underdrive pullies, are worth the very little performance gain they give on a street vehicle. If going for absolute max hp, then sure, they should be considered, but if looking for a decent hp per dollar gain, then I think FI is the best way. Im not certain they even give as much gain as an E-fan conversion would give, though I havent tested these types of pullies on a dyno.
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You will have a quicker rev through the RPM band which will get you to that much needed HP faster. So yes for accelleration, you will feel a slight increase. Easy to install, and price for the full set is worth it.
Cool thanks. Can you send me the links to the full set?
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Yea I know about the DTLTH. I was talking about the NST Pulleys. I was wondering where I can read up on the full set of pulleys rox was talking about.
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well concerning the high flow cat issue: Toyota has since replaced all 05+ tacomas with high flow cats. the first generation tacomas did not have hi-flo. but 05+ do have them
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:55 PM   #35
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Thanks, for the kind words, but I dont think Im a guru....I have been wrong in the past on things. ....That being said, yes, they are light weight. I was thinking they also had underdrive pullies. Reducing rotating mass is a good way to get performance, but it comes with a price. Much like the lighter flywheels use in raceing vehicles, they help, but in a street application, they can cause an engine to be more prone to stalling out. I dont think the affects of a light weight pully, or underdrive pullies, are worth the very little performance gain they give on a street vehicle. If going for absolute max hp, then sure, they should be considered, but if looking for a decent hp per dollar gain, then I think FI is the best way. Im not certain they even give as much gain as an E-fan conversion would give, though I havent tested these types of pullies on a dyno.
Very True. I totally agree, and as far as F/I, Look out for my updated Build's page

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Cool thanks. Can you send me the links to the full set?
No prob:
http://www.nonstoptuning.com/pKitToyXR.htm

Here is my write up on the crank pulley:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/pro...nk-pulley.html

And one on the WP & Alt pulley:
http://www.xr-underground.com/forum/...hlight=pulleys

Enjoy...
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Very True. I totally agree, and as far as F/I, Look out for my updated Build's page
If you are implying that you are soon to be force induced, you will do nothing but increase my envy for your long list of engine mods
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If you are implying that you are soon to be force induced, you will do nothing but increase my envy for your long list of engine mods
LOL... It will take a while. Looking like next summer. But it's all a work in progress
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Horsepower costs money. the more power you want, the more you gotta spend.

You buy $5 movies for $100, or you can buy 50 movies for $250. When you buy in bulk, the $/HP is cheaper.

S/C or Turbo is the best bang for your buck 90% of the time.

The APR X-1 is 2nd best (better then some FI products as well).

The headers are a great mid range gain. Being N/A you'll trade some low end torque for some high RPM hp. You will enjoy the headers.
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My disclaimer: all of my aftermarket performance parts experience has been with my previous trucks (F-150, Ranger) but I believe some things are pretty similar no matter what vehicle you run them on, so here is my insight.

I bought underdrive pulley's for my F-150 and dollar for dollar, I noticed a nice seat of the pants gain. The truck rev'd much quicker through the rpm band and the throttle response was much improved. It did come at a cost, however, since the alternator (among other components) were now underdriven as the name implies. When I was at idle with my heater on and stereo going (I had two amplifiers) it was a little unnerving at times. For a daily driver, I would never do it again. The payoff was not worth the price. If you have a weekend toy that you're fixing up and you don't care about the auxiliary components (stereo, hvac, power windows, etc.) then sure, they're a great bang for the buck mod. But I wouldn't do it for a daily driver.
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