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tooter 04-20-2013 10:42 PM

freeing up power on a 2.7...
I had no choice but to take the unwanted added options when I got my 2012, and so I set to work on removing them today.


With the power steering and the AC removed, a smaller simpler non serpentine belt now only drives the alternator and water pump freeing up more power to move the truck. :)

Rich91710 04-20-2013 10:43 PM

AC doesn't pull any power unless you use it.

Power steering draw is minimal.

sch0enne 04-20-2013 11:04 PM


MightyMouse-SCT 04-20-2013 11:19 PM

You don't want AC or PS ? :eek:

tooter 04-20-2013 11:20 PM

It's just a personal preference. AC is only dead weight as I neither need it or use it, and I've never liked squishy power steering because you can't feel road resistance in curves. It's just a small light vehicle and doesn't really need power steering anyways. From what I've read on racing forums, the consensus is power steering losses run from 5-7 whp on a dyno.

I like to have a simple uncluttered engine compartment. :)

MightyMouse-SCT 04-20-2013 11:22 PM

Pretty crazy . I could never drive in smog-a in the summer with no AC .

Maybe also take out the spare tire /jack. Bed rails,tailgate and tie downs too .

tooter 04-20-2013 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gelo760 (Post 6774009)
Pretty crazy . I could never drive in smog-a in the summer with no AC .

Humans have an innate ability to adapt to a wide range of conditions. The more compensations are depended on, the more that ability to adapt is lost until the comfort range becomes so delicate and narrow that the slightest deviation causes discomfort.


Maybe also take out the spare tire /jack. Bed rails,tailgate and tie downs too .
None of those are located in the engine compartment. ;)

tooter 04-24-2013 06:27 PM

I further refined the idea with a slightly longer belt to go around the belt tensioning idler which eliminated another idler pulley.

So instead of the engine crankshaft working to turn 4 pulleys and 3 idlers, now it only turns 2 pulleys and 1 idler. :)

The belt is 6 groove instead of 7 because they don't make a 7 groove that small. It doesn't need to be 7 because it's driving so few accessories.




It took a little trial and error to find the right belt. The one that's just the right length to put the tensioner idler square in the middle of it's travel is a Gates:





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