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Old 08-24-2013, 12:48 AM   #101
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Taken from an attorney's site. I realize that this specifically talks about 18 wheelers but it can easily be modified for a truck with an aftermarket steel bumper.

"Does the truck that you drive have a steel bumper? This seemingly innocent stylistic statement can actually be a serious safety threat. A former mechanical engineer in Texas recently determined that steel bumpers on 18-wheeler trucks are significantly more dangerous than the energy absorbing bumpers that are sometimes installed on these vehicles. Steel bumpers can actually make a truck accident much worse than it would have been had the bumper been removed.

This is because the heavy steel bumpers can almost assist an 18-wheeler in doing damage to another vehicle, rather than cushioning the blow. The auto industry has started moving towards the tendency to use plastic bumpers, composite bumpers, or other energy-absorbing bumper materials so that these car accessories don't cause so much damage in the event of a collision. These other materials are able to absorb some of the impact of an accident, rather than magnify it. Many of these other materials will fold under pressure, whereas steel often won't give in an accident."

http://m.arnolditkin.com/Personal-In...eel-Bumpe.aspx
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My ARB was one of the first things I did to my Taco as a noob in everything automotive. Two years later I am selling my ARB and UPGRADING to CBIs Moab bumper. The ARB is too heavy, bulky looking, and clearance limiting for my taste. CBI has excellent clearance, looks great, and isn't too heavy.
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Anyone have any insight on the All Pro APEX bumper? I just saw that they are having a GB.....
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The APEX bumper looks good, but where they mount it on the frame, have too many eye sore bolts / screws that is visible lol.
Thats IMO.....

Btw guys, i can EASILY get a ARB for about the same price as most vendors on here are selling their version of the plate bumper.... So why so many purchases from fab shops instead of a big company? Oh and not to mention not having to wait MONTHS?
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I don't like the looks of the ARB, and couldn't get it for less the Brute Force.
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I agree. That's my only gripe with arb is the look. One of the least appealing bumpers to me
That and the fact that if you go around 35s, then you have to trim the bumper... for the ARB. The bumper that you have I feel like would never have an issue as you go up in tire size.
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If you crash or get rear ended with a heavy duty steel bumper on get ready to be in some pain and possibly sued if the other guys lawyer is worth his weight and your bumper is for off-road use only.

Steel bumpers pretty much eliminate the crumple zone and transfer the shock strait through. My main fear is being rear ended with mine. The seats in these trucks aren't rated for much more than a 30mph impact with the stock bumper so if you get hit very hard at a stop light with a aftermarket one expect a broken back or worse.
That would be my fear as well with these bumpers. Wouldn't the shock transferred be more prone to damage the frame without a crumple zone? Also, I travel with my kids in my truck and I would not want to increase the chances of their getting hurt.

Can any bumper manufacturers speak to this issue?
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Armorology, built on my rig back in 2005, in Colorado Springs. I get compliments on the welds and the construction all the time. I took it off a couple months ago and had it powdercoated, the thing was straight as an arrow, after all the winching and bouncing off rocks. http://armorology.com/products.htm
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That would be my fear as well with these bumpers. Wouldn't the shock transferred be more prone to damage the frame without a crumple zone? Also, I travel with my kids in my truck and I would not want to increase the chances of their getting hurt.

Can any bumper manufacturers speak to this issue?
Years ago I took a class with Bill Burke (bb4wa.com) and he swears by the ARB bumpers, because he alleges they were designed to allow the airbag sensors to function correctly, i.e. to crumple properly so as to trigger the airbag at the correct stage of impact. Here it is:
http://store.arbusa.com/Bull-Bars-Bu...rriers-C8.aspx
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Just an fyi air bag sensors are activated by inertia. Has absolutely nothing to do with actually hitting them. If anything a steel bumper would transfer the force quicker activating the air bag quicker.
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Just an fyi air bag sensors are activated by inertia. Has absolutely nothing to do with actually hitting them. If anything a steel bumper would transfer the force quicker activating the air bag quicker.
Still, your point about the bumpers causing more injuries to passengers is significant. I'm surprised no bumper manufacturers have stepped in to promote their product or at least speak to the issue.

I also wonder if aluminum bumpers would be any better in terms of lessening shock transfer.
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Still, your point about the bumpers causing more injuries to passengers is significant. I'm surprised no bumper manufacturers have stepped in to promote their product or at least speak to the issue.

I also wonder if aluminum bumpers would be any better in terms of lessening shock transfer.
99% of plate/tube/hybrid bumpers are built for off-road use only and specifically labeled as so. That's one of the reasons that arbs are so popular because of their streetability. At the same time, it's one of the reasons why they aren't all that common on pure off-road rigs were solid armor is a must. If you have ever seen an arb in person, it's not made of thick metal and has many weak points but it was designed that way on purpose. Where as a lot of these other bumpers are made of 5/8", 1/4", and 3/16" steel only with no "weak" points and designed that way on purpose.
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Good point, allmotorrex. If you rap your knuckles on an ARB, it sings like a windchime. Mine's so solid, it doesn't make a sound. Pity me if I wreck and the other guy, too:/
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