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Old 05-25-2013, 12:51 AM   #21
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Update: still waiting on warranty uniballs and steering heims. Only been like 9 months.

Have 33,000km on this kit now. One of my rear shocks is leaking. Walker Evans supplied by Allpro.

The kit performed well in moab.
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Thanks for the honest review. If you could have done differently, would a mid-travel kit suffice with the proper mod's? Or would you have just gone with a different brand and stuck with the LT?
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Thanks for your honest review on this setup. I've been lurking and doing research on which LT kit to get and It seems that you do the same things off road that i'll be doing with mine. This review has basically made up my mind not to get the AP kit.
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Lol you left me negative rep?


I should update this thread too.

Lately it has been working well for me. I put the tie rod extenders in, and have been on factory tie rods for months now. No more steering issues. Very thing seems to be holding up well. I made a flap to protect the upper uniball, and it seems to be making the difference. The upper uniballs are holding up great. The coilovers are still pretty soft for the front end, but may be fine with a factory front bumper. I ground out my inner cvs to help with the axle rubbing issue, and it has helped, but the axles still rub a little bit. Doesn't seem to be enough to break another one, which is nice.


As of lately, I'm satisfied with this kit. Just needs to come with limit straps!

Sorry if this new review has confused you xjfella!
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I did? If so I do appologize, I did click on it but I might have done something wrong. Thanks for the review tho, and I'm not confused...
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I made a flap to protect the upper uniball, and it seems to be making the difference. The upper uniballs are holding up great.
any pics of the flap/cover you made for the upper uniball? i just bought a used allpro kit that im going to install soon and don't want to deal with worn out uniballs in 2 months.
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Lol you left me negative rep?


I should update this thread too.

Lately it has been working well for me. I put the tie rod extenders in, and have been on factory tie rods for months now. No more steering issues. Very thing seems to be holding up well. I made a flap to protect the upper uniball, and it seems to be making the difference. The upper uniballs are holding up great. The coilovers are still pretty soft for the front end, but may be fine with a factory front bumper. I ground out my inner cvs to help with the axle rubbing issue, and it has helped, but the axles still rub a little bit. Doesn't seem to be enough to break another one, which is nice.


As of lately, I'm satisfied with this kit. Just needs to come with limit straps!

Sorry if this new review has confused you xjfella!
I just got this kit. The flap you made, is it like a dust cap for the uniballs? Also, how hard was it to grind the inner CV's? Would it be easier to just use limit straps?
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@Spoonman: Are your CV parts Toyota OEM or aftermarket?
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@Spoonman: Are your CV parts Toyota OEM or aftermarket?
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any pics of the flap/cover you made for the upper uniball? i just bought a used allpro kit that im going to install soon and don't want to deal with worn out uniballs in 2 months.
Don have pics, but it's just a flap out of some stuff I used for my inner fender liners.

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I just got this kit. The flap you made, is it like a dust cap for the uniballs? Also, how hard was it to grind the inner CV's? Would it be easier to just use limit straps?
Essentially yes. It just keeps the majority of the crap out of the uniball. Grinding the CVs was easy with the right tools. However it didn't solve my problem. Limit straps would be a lot more effective.
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What was the total lift on that kit? What did you do to level the rear?
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Could be from zero inches of lift to about 5. The walker evans coilovers are adjustable. I set it at about 2.5 to match the rear.
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What setup do you have for the rear? Shackle flip? Springs?
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Standard Allpro 3" leafs. No shackle flip. Gives about 3" lift, but they've sagged out a bit now.
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I'm looking to go with the expos. Other than sag, no issues with the leafs though?
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All the Allpro leafs I've seen are sagged, inverted, wavy, or have broken leafs. I'm looking for an alternative to the the Allpro expos.
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My left side leaf sits about 1" lower on the drivers side. I know of taco lean, but this is excessive.
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Please read this first: You are about to read an honest review of an Allpro offroad product. This has been my experience. I did not come here to lie or to scare anyone off from buying Allpro products. The conclusion you come to after reading this review is entirely yours.


Hello everyone. When it comes to the 2nd gen tacomas, there are a lot of products to choose from. When it comes to long travel, there are a few options. I chose Allpro LT due to the good reviews I had heard of it. I like the tubular design of the control arms. Looks decent and strong enough to hold up to the stresses of use.

Kit installed June 2, 2012.

Well they are beefy control arms thats for sure.

The axles and HD steering are big as well.

The install was fairly simple. No modifications needed to get this stuff in, aside from having push out the LCA tabs. The control arms seemed a little too wide, but they did fit after a BFH was brought into the equation.

During the install:


Back on its wheels again:


First text of the articulation. A huge jump over the factory suspension!


After I even'd out the front and by lifting it up a little, it soaks up bumps well. I don't have anywhere around here to jump the truck around here. Only some bumpy roads to test the suspension. And lots of flexy trails to test the suspension.

The steering feels nimble. The trucks handles very well on the road with this suspension. Driving it is a breeze. Can corner hard! And it feels like you've got complete control.

Fast forward to a few October. 8000Km (5000 miles). HD steering is worn out.
-The outer heims on the HD steering are completely screwed from roughly 7000km highway driving, and 1000km offroad.

Still waiting on warranty from allpro to this day.

I replaced the HD steering with factory Toyota tie rods with a tie rod spacer. The have far outlasted the allpro "Heavy Duty" steering.

-At the same time as I replaced the "HD" steering, I noticed slight play in my upper uniballs. I kept an eye on this, thinking it may be normal. These shouldn't be worn out after 5000 miles?

17000KM (10560 Miles)
12.16.2012 Broken my RF axle shaft.
-After a lot of contraversy, Allpro did Warranty this AND the other side. They say limit straps are not needed with this kit. I beg to differ but can't seem to get my point across. The axles were rubbing on the tulip of the CV joint. The shocks are internally limited but they are not limited enough. On full droop it was rubbing. Causing the shaft to fail. Thank you very much to allpro, for warrantying these. Limit straps are required however. Or as allpro suggested, "clearance" my CV. I am not particularly fond of. I will use limit straps. I don't want to weaken my CV's.

Well fast forward to now. 19000KM (11,000 Miles)
-Both upper uniballs are SCREWED. The right lower unsafe to drive on, and the left lower has a bunch of play as well. I am hoping allpro will warranty these. This is way to early for such strong parts to wear out. I have been washing them religiously after wheeling too. They do not have dirt or mud in them for more than a few hours.

-I have also noticed my front springs have sagged, and the ride height has dropped again in the front. Guess I need to crank up the springs again.


Overall:
I am very dissapointed with this kit. When I spent over 4500 on this suspension, I was expecting to get a good quality kit. Almost every moving part has failed. I am impressed with the articulation it offers, but if I could do it again, no way would I buy this kit again. I can't believe I am having so much trouble. I take good care of this truck, and of the parts I install. I stay up to date with the maintenance. Unfortunately I am not confident with Allpro parts anymore, contrary to the good reviews I have heard about this kit.

TL;DR
1 star is very poor, 5 stars is great.

Articulation ****
Reliability/Long lasting *
Vendor customer service ***
Ease of install ****

Again, I am not trying to bash All-pro offroad. This is my honest experience with their product.

great review, and I'm sorry that you're having so many annoying issues. I know the feeling when the thing you built breaks down because of other's problems. I'm on 20,000 miles on my all-pro kit up front, so far no hiccups other than I got sent 2 left hand spindle gussets the first time around.
I stuck with the stock steering, with no issues. My kit has to keep up with a recently new defined engineering rear end, so we will see how it holds up. It's a great kit (I fucking love cornering on mine too haha) and I hope that all-pro helps you get your problems figured out. On that note, how can you tell if you're uniballs have any play? I regularly throw my shit up on jackstands and check for play, but would there any other signs (noises, loose steering, etc.) Limit straps are next on the list now haha so thank you Spoonman!! Braaaaaap

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